Tue 5 Feb 2008
One of the strikingly positive things of our trip was that we saw an awareness among people that we have never seen before. Now all they need is some political leadership that will work FOR them. Irene Khan quite aptly sums up the whole trip that gives us hope to carry on the debate and the struggle — for justice.
See the original piece with pictures from her trip here
Amnesty chief with Shahidul Alam and Asif Saleh in the freedom of expression seminar organized by Drishtipat, Drik and Amnesty for young journalists, activists and bloggers at Drik. Image- Amin at Drik -courtesy Amnesty
Ending the downward spiral in Bangladesh
by Irene Khan,
As British Airways flight BA144 takes off from Zia International Airport in the darkness of the night, I look out of the window of the airplane and think of the metaphorical darkness from which the people of this country are seeking to escape.
For decades, Bangladesh has been caught in a downward spiral of corruption, insecurity, political violence and organized crime in which human rights and the rule of law have been the first casualties. Political leaders have shown more interest in abuse of power for personal gains than in poverty eradication. The powerful and the privileged have acted with impunity, with no fear of being called to account by weak and ineffective state institutions.
Repressive laws, including laws granting special or emergency powers, have been used and abused by successive governments. Police and other state officials have sided with the affluent and the influential, so that the most vulnerable – women, minorities, the poor and the marginalized – have been the least protected.
The declaration of the state of emergency and the installation of a Caretaker Government (CTG) in January 2007 were desperate measures to save the country from ever-increasing levels of insecurity and political violence, further bloodshed and mayhem, and set on track free and fair elections for a democratic government.
During the Amnesty International visit to Bangladesh, journalists constantly asked if the human rights situation in 2007 was better than that in 2006. They were disappointed when I refused to give a simple “yes” or “no” answer. And so, sitting on the plane, I turn on my laptop in the hope of penning a more satisfactory response than I have given so far.
Of course there has been an improvement in physical security and a dramatic decline in human rights violations related to political violence in 2007 as compared to previous years. Government figures also show a fall in the number of extra-judicial killings by RAB and other security forces from 195 in 2006 to 93 in 2007.
These developments are welcome but it would be wrong to endorse them as indicators of improvement in the human rights situation without probing more deeply into what is being done – and what more needs to be done - to ensure that these positive trends will endure beyond the life of the CTG.
We need to analyse more carefully the quality of change being brought by the CTG to ensure that they are not merely cosmetic. And we need to ask – indeed demand – that the political parties will uphold human rights and the rule of law when they come to power so that what is being done now is not undone in the future.
In a country where the state machinery – courts, police and military – not only fails to deliver justice and security but is often the instrument of persecution, institutional reform is necessary to convert perpetrators into protectors. The CTG must be commended for taking some much-needed, long-awaited reform measures but it needs to undertake or at least set in motion some other measures to ensure that the reforms are truly effective.
Guaranteeing the independence of the judiciary requires not only separation from the executive but also other measures to ensure proper recruitment, appointment and security of tenure of judges without political interference. A new Police Ordinance will not end police brutality and inefficiency unless it includes clear provisions for independent scrutiny and greater accountability, for instance through the establishment of an independent police complaints mechanism.
The National Human Rights Commission must be given real teeth to investigate and take action against all organs of the state, including the Joint Forces and RAB. The CTG must appoint individuals to the National Human Rights Commission who are not only competent and qualified but command such a high degree respect and credibility that no future government will dare to sideline or undermine their work.
These institutional changes, if carried out properly, will make a real difference to the range of human rights violations, from police brutality to gender violence, that plague the lives of ordinary people.
There are two key factors that will determine the ultimate success or failure of the human rights reform agenda: first, the CTG’s willingness to close its credibility gap on human rights, and second, the readiness of the main political parties to embrace the changes and commit themselves to upholding human rights and the rule of law.
How can the CTG’s initiative to separate the judiciary from the executive be taken as a true commitment to creating an independent judiciary when there is widespread perception that the same government is manipulating the criminal justice system to deliver some pre-ordained outcomes in high profile political cases?
When I stressed the need for the government to be seen to be respecting due process, the Chief Advisor responded that this government is using existing laws and existing courts. Surely, that is not a satisfactory answer when it is well-known that these same laws and courts have been subject to substantial political interference in the past and so open to the same level of interference now. A government committed to the rule of law must show scrupulous regard for due process.
How can the government’s commitment to freedom of information be taken seriously when overt and covert pressure is exerted on the media? The government was keen to point out to me that although the emergency rules impose far-reaching restrictions, they are not being enforced rigorously. So, why leave them hanging like Damocles’ sword over the heads of media, creating uncertainty and encouraging self-censorship?
With such emergency regulations in existence, the chilling effect of a telephone call from a Directorate of General Forces Intelligence (DGFI) official to a TV station owner, or from the local RAB commander to a district correspondent should not be underestimated. Add to that a case like that of Jahangir Alam Akash, who claims to have been detained and tortured by RAB and charged in 2007 with extortion allegedly committed in 2004, days after he reported an incident implicating local RAB officials in an attempted extra-judicial killing.
Democratic institutions cannot develop in a climate of self-censorship. A period of transition and change must be informed by a diversity of views. That is why the government must immediately lift the restrictions on freedom of expression, assembly and association, including restrictions on the media.
How can people have confidence in the CTG’s drive to create a culture of transparency and accountability when the government has failed to be transparent and accountable about investigating reports of serious human rights violations by RAB and the Joint Forces? Torture allegations made by Rang Lai Mro, a prominent leader from the Chittagong Hill Tracts remain uninvestigated, as do the allegations by Jahangir Alam Akash, or the death of Dulal in Bhola reportedly at the hands of the Navy.
After much adverse publicity, the government set up a one-man judicial commission to investigate the death of Cholesh Richil, a Garo leader, allegedly tortured by a Joint Forces unit in March 2007, but has so far failed to publish the report or open any criminal prosecution. I welcome the statement by the Chief Advisor that the NHRC should have the power to investigate human rights complaints against military and security officials, including RAB, in the future. But justice delayed is justice denied.
The Richil case cannot wait. Only by publishing the report of the judicial commission and by following it up with criminal investigation and prosecution in an open court of law can this government show that it is determined to end the culture of impunity that has hamstrung the rule of law in this country.
The past year has been marked by a creeping expansion of the role of the armed forces in activities that should rightly be carried out by a civilian administration, from law enforcement to electoral registration and investigation of extortion cases. I was told by the Army Chief that this is because of the lack of capacity and competency in the civilian administration. Be that as it may, principles of transparency and accountability, which lie at the core of human rights, require that all activities by the armed forces should be circumscribed by law and put under civilian scrutiny and accountability.
If the CTG has the courage to confront and close these credibility gaps, then it will go a long way in creating public confidence in the human rights reforms agenda that no future government will be able to undo. Turning now to the political parties, I fully agreed with the Chief Advisor when he said to me during our meeting that institutional change is a long term process and its success depends not only on the CTG but on the commitment of future governments.
That is why Amnesty International’s recommendations on human rights reform are addressed not just to the CTG but also to political parties. That is why we asked all political parties represented in the previous parliament to meet with us, and the Awami League, one faction of the BNP (the other one led by Saifur Rahman did not return our call for a meeting) and Jamaat agreed to do so.
In these meetings, my colleagues emphasized our call for political parties to include a human rights agenda in their manifesto, and to support human rights reforms when they are in parliament. The test of the commitments which they declared to have for human rights will be in what they will say publically and will do in Parliament.
Regrettably, human rights have yet to enter the lexicon of political parties. They have little understanding about the relationship of human rights to democracy and good governance, and even less of their role as political leaders in upholding human rights and the rule of law. They are primarily preoccupied with protecting the human rights of their leaders who are feeling the brunt of the law.
They are yet to fully appreciate the irony that they themselves created and nurtured the laws, systems and practices of which they are now complaining. Now that they are at the receiving end of these repressive laws, policies and practices, let us hope that they will take more seriously Amnesty’s oft-reiterated recommendations, including repeal of the Special Powers Act and the introduction of basic safeguards against torture and ill treatment of detainees.
Knowing the role that democratically elected governments played in the past in undermining the rule of law and human rights, civil society must be vigorous in demanding that political parties demonstrate a clear commitment to human rights. They must call on the political parties to set out their vision on human rights and to insert clear commitments in their electoral manifesto. In the run up to the elections, there is an opportunity to educate the political leaders on human rights as a means of good governance, and I believe the more astute and progressive leaders are ready to learn.
So, the right question is not whether the human rights situation today is better or worse than last year. It is whether one should be more hopeful or less that this country will turn a corner on human rights.
And there I am optimistic. The public today is more aware of human rights than ever before. Civil society is more determined than ever to hold their political leaders to account. The call for democracy is not simply for free and fair elections but for a new style of governance that is transparent, accountable and responsive to the needs, demands and rights of the people.
I leave Bangladesh with a sense of hope, not because of what the CTG has done, or what political parties promise to do, nor even what civil society is determined to do, but because of the growing realisation and determination of ordinary people to stand up for their rights.
The day labourers in my ancestral village in Sylhet, the women in the legal literacy projects in the village in Tangail, the fruit seller from whom I bought oranges on the street corner in Gulshan, the CNG driver who drove me to the market – they spoke to me frankly and simply with no sophisticated understanding of law or politics. But in their voices I heard the uncompromising demand for justice, equality and a decent life and livelihood for all. No government, caretaker or democratic, no leader, elected or unelected, can afford to ignore that call.
The flight is about to land at Heathrow and I must turn off my laptop. But before I do that, I remember the words of the man guarding the door of the passenger terminal at Dhaka airport. As I entered the building with my luggage trolley, he recognised my face from TV and newspaper pages, and came running after me. “You have said what many of us want to say,” he said. “We all want to see change in Bangladesh.” Then, as I waved goodbye, he called out, “Apa, please do not forget us.”
How can I ever forget people like him who give me hope that the struggle for human rights in Bangladesh will endure!
February 5th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Just to clarify, Chief Advisor Fakhruddin Ahmed’s claim that “this government is using existing laws and existing courts” is absolutely false, isn’t it? Special courts were set up in the Parliamentary Complex, and the trials are taking place under Emergency Powers Rule 2007, which was promulgated after this government came to power. I believe this is actually one of the main points of contention, since under any basis of legality, an act can not be tried under a law that was not in force when that act was committed.
The point about human rights entering our political lexicon is absolutely fundamental. It has to happen, and I am optimistic it will happen as soon as democracy returns to Bangladesh.
The absolute tone of equivocation predominant in this article is quite noteworthy. I’ll understand if that is the appropriate tone for discourse at the government-international HR watchdog level.
February 5th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
This is a personal essay of a Bangladeshi national, I believe. For the appropriate tone of discourse, you need to check the end of the visit statement and the recommendations.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/one-year-human-rights-bangladesh-under-state-emergency-20080110
and your point is highlighted when she says:
How can the CTG’s initiative to separate the judiciary from the executive be taken as a true commitment to creating an independent judiciary when there is widespread perception that the same government is manipulating the criminal justice system to deliver some pre-ordained outcomes in high profile political cases?
February 5th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
The Bangladeshi origin of Irene Khan makes us proud. But at the same time this same origin probably weakens her capability as a neutral 3rd party observer of the abuses and injustices in Bangladesh.
To me she sounded like another disconnected foreign living Bangladeshi elite with a lot of academic investment but a very narrow vision of the realities in Bangladesh through a tainted ground glass.
I know this sort of rhetoric based allegation against her does not do justice to her stature and I promise to come up with a detailed non-rhetorical response later today.
She said,
” Knowing the role that democratically elected governments played in the past in undermining the rule of law and human rights, civil society must be vigorous in demanding that political parties demonstrate a clear commitment to human rights.”
One year after 1/11, we all should know what happens when civil society piggybacked on the armed forces try to do the very same thing Mrs Khan demanded.
February 5th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Who is the civil society? Do CPD, Daily Star, Prothom Alo represent the civil society? or was it the bloggers, young local journalists, activists who came to the freedom of expression event. The truth is ALL of them and us. When you put the whole of civil society in the dock, you do a disservice to the brave ones who are putting up the pressure and will continue to do so next year — in an out. The partial transcript is here: http://shahidul.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/freedom-of-expression-roundtable/
I thought the bravest statement came from the wife of RU teacher who said the following. Mind you she is not the out of touch NRB. Coming from her after how much she suffered, this says a lot:
Udisa Islam speaks
Freelancer ..used to be in tv
Another introduction of mine is — I am the wife a teacher who were detained in Rajshahi University,
I am hearing a lot of sad stories..
but what is the worth of presenting this here?
We need to share this stories with each other ALL the time
This I am saying as a grassroots journalist,.
Last Aug 22nd whatever happened in bangladesh, everyone knows
Similarly whatever happenned with the museum statues.
The media played a brave role there.
How were those published and not some other stories?
Journalists oppression goes on for years!!
Its not because of state of emergency
Tipu Sultan (another victim) was not created under State of emergency (SOE)
it will happen again and again.
We need to talk about the whys of that
February 5th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
[...] Rights in Bangladesh Summarizing her experience about her visit to Bangladesh, Amnesty International’s Irene Khan described [...]
February 5th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
“How can I ever forget people like him who give me hope that the struggle for human rights in Bangladesh will endure”…The last bit of Irene khans personal essay reminds me a song,
Together, We will go our way
Together, We will leave someday
Together, Your hand in our hands
Together, We will make our plans
Together, We will fly so high
Together, Tell all our foreign friends goodbye
Together, We will start life new
Together, This is what we’ll do
Go BD, Life will be peaceful there
Go BD, In the open air
Go BD, Where the skies are blue
Go BD , This is what we’re going to do
Together, We will learn and teach
Together, Change our pace of life
Together, We will work and strive
February 6th, 2008 at 3:22 am
#4,
It is not the “civil Society”, no matter whether it includes me/us or not, which should influence a political party’s policy, it is the people-the voters, who should matter in a political party’s decison making process. Insinuating civil society, in any form (Sometimes as NSC), between the people and the political party is nothing but the beginning of another “Downward Spiral”. And if we look at Pakistan or Turkey or Thailand, we will know how low this spiral can take a country down to.
And let’s talk about Tipu Sultan. His story was definitely created in a democratic environment. And the same environment ensured a payback, a grand one, to both the local MP and the whole party. There were many such stories created during last goverments rule. But a legitimate payback was not allowed. An election was not allowed to happen with the speculation that it will be rigged. A unborn child was killed as some people thought that the child may grow up into a criminal.
February 6th, 2008 at 4:29 am
Now let me discuss a bit more about Ms Irene Khan’s article.
I beg to disagree with Ms Khan’s assumption that the country was under a metaphorical darkness and people are trying to escape that darkness( ….by means of 1/11 revolution?). I am also another proud Bangladeshi. In my assumption, last 15 years were the golden era of Bangladesh. During this period, government’s have been changed by democratic means and a revolution took place in our telecommunication sector. During this time a vibrant free media took its root and Bangladesh stepped into an era of free electronic media.
Can anyone tell me there are how many more third world countries where at least two dozen daily newspapers publish online edition by midnight local time? How many regular online newspapers come out of India or pakistan or Japan or Singapore or Jordan or Indonesia or even Brazil? Bangladesh leads most of them. These all happened during last 15 years of democracy. Still Ms Khan will call it an era of Darkness?
Ms Irene Khan sensed a glimmer of hope about the prospect of Bangladeshi people finally determined to stand up for their rights. How did she came to this conclusion? She sensed this because some airport guard, a Gulshan fruit vendor and the CNG driver candidly discussed politics with her. Hashbo na Kandbo? Then what about 1952, 1969, 1971 or even 1990? The people of Bangladesh are the only peple who stood up, shed blood and earned their right to speak their mother tongue, win their independence and win their democracy!!!
Ms Khan raised the issue of Cholesh Risil, Journalist Akash or the leader at Ctg Hill tracts. But she failed to talk about the injustices being done against the politicians. Our top political leaders are now kept in solitary confinement like state without any specific charges. She was also surprisingly mum about the torture on politicians. Why? Is she taking any side here?
After counting up to a dozen time I lost track how many more times Ms khan invoked the word ” Human Rights”. But not a single time she cared to talk about gross breach of the most basic of human rights of the majority, the basic instinctual right to eat and survive. It is the time when the marginalized are at their wit’s end in ensuring that the children will have something to eat. She failed to talk about another millions of people who are made homeless over the last year.
To be frank, I don’t know how much those ‘romantic’ words like the rights of minority and women will resonate with the general masses when the vast majority of the population are not guaranteed bread for the following morning or even a roof on their head.
Ms khan was uncharacteristically soft on the current leaders Mr Fakhruddin or Gen Moeen U ahmed. If she gave equal benefit of doubt to our political leaders when they were in the government, I feel her organization could have accomplished much more. But unfortunately I don’t recall any thing but harsh criticism of the successive goverments in the past.
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It is definitely not a personal attack against a respected person Like Ms Irene Khan. It is a rebuttal of a commentary she made about Bangladesh. My hats off to her and her organization for all the great and courageous work they are doing all over the globe.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:30 am
#8,
Rumi bhai,
I disagree with your statement “last 15 years were the golden era for Bangladesh”. My personal view is that, while we have made notable progress in some sectors like garments, remittance, and mobile telecommunications, we never had a “golden era” as such. As someone who lived in Bangladesh the 15 years you are talking about, I saw how our politicians constantly raped our country for their infinite greed and personal and party gains. Yes, we had some form of democracy, but we also had elected MP’s like Zainal Hazari and Salauddin Kader Chowdhury. An election is only a part of a democracy.
Thanks to our politicians, I finished my 4-year undergrad in 6.5 years and I grew up as a coward who cannot even protest in his own campus the raping of his friend. Our university campuses were constantly violated by our student politicians, who must have been practicing to become the next Home or Education minister!
We get some kind of happiness bashing our civil society as bootlickers and such, while we are praising the heroism of the likes of Professor Anowar Hossain and Shafiq Rehman. Like you, I also respect these guys for their talent and patriotism. But these were the very people who were licking (and will lick again in due time…) the boots of the filthy politicians who violated our country every way they could…
February 6th, 2008 at 6:58 am
#8 - “how many more third world countries where at least two dozen daily newspapers publish online edition by midnight local time?”
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Brazil - 144 online newspapers (approx)
Pakistan- 165
India - 252
Bangladesh 65
http://www.onlinenewspapers.com
Number of online newspapers cannot measure a nations “golden era”, that credit goes only to the internet technology and journalism.
I agree with Ms Khan’s assessment of Bangladesh last 15 years, that it was an era of darkness. Bangladesh had the potential of becoming another Malaysia, Thailand or even Singapore at least in ECONOMIC respect. Instead, it was self-immolated by hartals, boycotts and GROSS neglect and incompetence of the political admin.
Last 15 years was a Golden Era for WORLDWIDE electronic media and internet, I vouch for that - but BD managed to acquire only a SMALL portion of that opportunity, which grew its Mobile Phone BASE, and electronic newspapers. But in true sense of capturing IT industry and even internet website technology, BD is far behind global infancy.
Whereas China took EFFECTIVE measures to capture the global economic opportunity of last 15 years, to strengthen its infrastructure, economy, and grew in leaps and bounds, Bangladesh only grew in population, density and overcrowding.
But real development in Bangladesh public sectors had really DECLINED in past 15 years not grown - education, public health, roads and infrastructure, transport, law & order, police force, health care, power and utilities etc. Even the system of democracy in BD declined to a halt in 1/11, due to political anarchy.
Growth only happened in sectors where corruption was rampant and profitably filthy - advertising, real-estate, urea. Non govt sectors did well in garments due to cheap labor (HR issues!).
Even though there were a few glimmers of high tech light in cell phones and internet, the reality of last 15 years in Bangladesh was sadly that of darkness. Ms Khan only said “the emperor is naked” - but that is the truth.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:23 am
We have had these debates before. So I will let people in Bangladesh say whether the last 15 years was a golden age of Bangladesh or not. But my feeling is that there will be very few takers. The political parties in Bangladesh ride on negative popularity. Vote for me not because I will take you there but rather vote for me because e the other party is so bad. I will be a little less bad. That’s the mantra. To say that there were nothing wrong with the way things were done before and to say in between the elections the journalists, the activists, the professionals, the educated middle class (i.e civil society) has no role to keep the pressure on the government is asking for a dysfunctional democracy again. If you say the Tipu Sultan case was engineered, then I don’t have much to say. CPJ ranked Bangladesh to be the most dangerous place for journalists not under state of emergency but under the “golden era” of Bangladesh.
But I hope we see more participation from the bangladeshi audience in this thread rather than the usual suspects (wink wink K Gazi bhai
) dominating this space.
Yes, we are pissed off with the current government. But that’s not to say we are clamoring for the golden age. There needs to be a new start and the political parties have to be offer a new vision in stead of hoping that the food price goes up even further so that they can stake a claim to power on the back of the negative publicity of the government.
February 6th, 2008 at 11:25 am
##What injustice being done to the incompetent and corrupt politicians? They should have been locked up long ago. The politicians need to understand the era of dhandabaji is over.
##Ms khan was uncharacteristically soft on the current leaders Mr Fakhruddin or Gen Moeen U ahmed……………Because she knows who are genuine talent, competent, hard worker and putting honest effort to establish the true democracy in Bangladesh. The members of the present CTG have not been indulging themselves in commission business like the way our saint and talented (to some people) politicians did in their diamond, golden, silver and bronze eras. Some of us need to understand that the politicians are elected not for doing the commission business, dhandabaji and stealing the relief’s stuffs, rather they have much better job to do for the country and its people.
##For decades, Bangladesh has been caught in a downward spiral of corruption, insecurity, political violence and organized crime in which human rights and the rule of law have been the first casualties. Political leaders have shown more interest in abuse of power for personal gains than in poverty eradication. The powerful and the privileged have acted with impunity, with no fear of being called to account by weak and ineffective state institutions………EKSHOTO VAG KHATI SHOTTI KOTHA.
##In a country where the state machinery – courts, police and military – not only fails to deliver justice and security but is often the instrument of persecution, institutional reform is necessary to convert perpetrators into protectors. The CTG must be commended for taking some much-needed, long-awaited reform measures but it needs to undertake or at least set in motion some other measures to ensure that the reforms are truly effective…………………..Can’t agree with her more.
#Bilash
It’s good that you have flashed the real side of our student leaders. Rather than studying in the university these students leaders have been doing gunda gardi, raping chandabaji in the name of politics.The genuine talent students have been torturing and dominating in the 15 years by these gunda leaders.
February 6th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Mr Gazi, be practical, not an online research based hollow rambler.
Please give me link of 65 daily Bangladeshi newspapers regulrly publishing daily online edition midnight bangladesh time.
February 6th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Asif
I will not debate with you or Mr Gazi regarding your points made in comment # 11. I don not think a healthy debate is possible on this topic in the blogospere. This is a biased enemy territory for any nay sayer of some of this government’s undemocratic processes. Let’s go to the tea stall behind the water pump at Zurain bus station, we can have a bunch of more informed debaters.
The fledgling democracy in Bangladesh was not perfect by any means. But you don’t deal with a sick one by killing it extra judicially. You would want to nourish it, support it to let it grow into maturity.
Anyway, points made in comment 9,10,11, 12 do prove that what I was trying to tell all along in this thread was right. Irene Khan commentary did not sound like a plain eye observation of a neutral 3r party observer. It definitely represented a class, the class that is very vocally represented here by KGazi et el.
[ I probably misphrased the sentence about Tipu Sultan. Did not mean that it was engineering. Rather meant, 'Tipu Sultan Incident took place in a democratic environment'. ]
February 6th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
We are divided in that some of us would prefer the way things were the last fifteen months over the last twelve months, and the rest of us would prefer the way things were the last twelve months over the last fifteen years.
I think all of us (except for the time-travellers who talk about going back to pre 1/11) realize that the future will be a mixture of the two, it won’t completely be like the last twelve months or the last fifteen years. The future will be a composite, and features of both the time-periods will be present.
I believe a great deal of effort is being made by the government right now in trying to decide which of the things that happened after January 11th 2007 it will try to preserve, and the manner in which this will be done.
Perhaps we could do the same, in that, we could also try to construct a vision of the future all of us can at least tolerate and live in, even if it does not conform a hundred percent to what we had in our hearts.
February 6th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Well said, Tacit. Why do we have to take everything in a package? The choice of post 1/11 vs pre 1/11 is a false choice. We don’t want things in a package. We want to pick a mixture of things.
For me, I would like to keep the separated judiciary, independent election commission and anti corruption commission from post 1/11 and I would want the freedom of speech, vocal media, competent handling of the economy and a favourable investment climate back from the pre 1/11 era. I want back the accountability of our leaders through election.
On top of that I’d like to see a National Human rights commission and the process of reforming the judiciary to continue.
What I don’t want from post 1/11 is the emergence of a new feudal lord, giving of key admin position to military high ups, mismanagement of economy and anti poor policies, interference in judiciary, the tortures and the big brother watching and coward and manipulative media.
What I don’t want from pre 1/11 are the destruction of all of our key democratic institutes by manipulation, the graft, the cadre based mastani, the destruction of the public administration, judiciary by giving position based on party loyalities rather than merit and of course the logi boitha in the street and the government patronization of the extremists.
What I don’t want from both the era are the endemic corruption, the rampant human rights abuse, the blatant disregard of law by the powerful.
Can we have this djuice mix? Can we all agree on this?
Rumi bhai,
no points for guessing which class this english speaking blog writers belong to. No surprises there.
But the view in that class is not homogeneous. Its not right to dismiss a view because someone is perceived to be representing a class. Honestly, you can’t claim what is the view of the class we do not represent either because you are part of that class as well. None of us can. But we can assume that they want their fundamental rights to live a dignified life with justice.
February 6th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Rumi #13 - ref listed ALL online newspapers as comparison, and here’s BD list. Gotta run now - ‘I’ll be Back’
http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/banglade.htm
February 6th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I have no problems with comments made in #15 and 16.
I would only add one one point here. Life is not as single dimensional black and white as it is sometimes protrayed as. We are saying current EC, ACC is better than previous EC, ACC etc. This is probbaly more of a perception rather than some real data. The public perceptions of these sort of remote figures are the creation of media. If the media which reached 95% of the readers of the country try and succeed in protraying one ATM Shamsul Huda as an angel compared to one evil Justice Aziz, the people will definitely say, yeah…. post 1/11 is much better.
Let’s not pull the trigger pre maturely. Let the net result of their work decide how good this EC is.
February 6th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
I think the real problem with the AI chief appearing to be “soft” on the present govt is that of not appreciating the “limitations” of *civil discourse* — we get so numbed by the high-pitched vulgarity of our politicians and bloggers alike, that we don’t realize the power of simple, but truthful condemnation when directed at heads of states by heads of international entities such as the UN or the AI.
Anyway, no point in debating such subtlety here. As is there no point in debating the occurrence of a Golden Age — but in my own very *subjective* opinion, the five years of AL rule would qualify as something close, relatively speaking of course, were it not for the rise of the underground mobs. The politicians’ own corruption, although far surpassed by the next BNP-Jamaat govt, was by no means insignificant — enough to ruin all the good image built earlier on. And let’s face it, some of the positives of AL rule were in fact rooted in the previous BNP govt’s economic reforms.
Speaking of post- v pre- 1/11: I see some positive things in the EC, definitely better than one crore false voters, to begin with. I’m also surprised that this EC is saying things like “polls cannot take place in a SoE”. Whether they mean it, or it’s just another delaying tactic, remains to be seen. But at least the public is getting some ideas to play with.
The HR record of the current Govt, however, is despicable and dishonorable (I cannot find words sufficient to condemn it enough: it is going after corrupt politicians, but cannot punish its own members for the inhuman torture to death of Cholesh Ritchil, or the disappearance of Kalpana Chakma), and justly earns it the title of a murderous Dictatorship of the Army.
I agree with Asif S’s list of desirable things (#16); although I’d also have an NSC/NHRC that affords us a mechanism of removing corrupt politicians and govt employees, and eventually the complete elimination of our armed forces (these are our biggest security threats, as these are also our biggest HR violators).
February 6th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Rumi bhai,
I am not sure how good this EC is. The action will speak for itself. But I was referring to the ordinance that was recently passed to make it independent off the PM’s secretariate. This is another thing that the elected democratic governments were reluctant on doing for the fear of losing their grip.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
#15 and #16,
Thats exactly what I want. A mixture of the best of the both world. Asif bhai put it so nicely.
With all the negatives like sky-rocketing prices of essentials, Cholesh killing, Arif jailing, I must also give credits to this govt., for they at least gave us this opportunity to see that there can be light at the end of tunnel. The endless darkness our politicians were leading us to, the bottom-up raping of our dear motherland by their unbounded greed for power and money, the uncertain future of the 150 million people of the country, all came to a stop with the taking over of this government. I am not saying they are angels. At least they have shown us that the lust for power and money can be restrained, the mighty leaders can be put behind the bars, the omnipotent student politicians on campus can be held back…
February 6th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
#18,
I wonder where was the “limitations” of *civil discourse* from the UN/AI chief kind of persons, when a civil government was running Bangladesh.
…and the high pitched vulgarity of the blogger’s and commentators alike… isn’t it we call civil society?
…and the angelic CEC said “polls can take place in a SoE”, before he said” “polls cannot take place in a SoE”, and before that he said, “polls can take place in a SoE”……
February 6th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
If my understanding is correct, “chadabaji” and “mastani” done by the gundas are not violation by human rights.These are kind of “shontrash” or crimial activities.
If police or law enforcing agency sided with these criminal, this is human rights violation. Govt is responsible to protect these rights. so violation of these rights can be committed only by the Govt.Every Govt is accused of this crime.Difference between the “dark period” of elected Govt and this CTG is that, media raised its voice for Tipu, but forced to remain silent for Akash and Arif.
we were not in darkness during Al/BNP regime. we exactly knew what’s happening in the country, we are in darkness now, don’t know who is ruling us? Is it 10 advisors or the army or DGFI?
“Guaranteeing the independence of the judiciary requires not only separation from the executive but also other measures to ensure proper recruitment, appointment and security of tenure of judges without political interference”
Irene Khan’s comment about independent judiciary is important in the context of 1/11 in a funny way, 1/11 happened because Al did not like Barrister Hasan who got a promotion during BNP regime!I personally don’t like the idea of CTG.It was a different case in 1991. Now our politicians should stop thinking about manipulating the election and learn to trust each other.
I want to echo what the guard said to Irene,
““We all want to see change in Bangladesh.”
Asif bhai’s Djuice formula is good but my fear is that the type of “change” we are having now will bring absolute power of the army, not the power of the people.
about 1 yaer ago, Farhad Mazhar said in one of his articles, ” every five year, people of Bangladesh decide who will do the corruption for the next 5 years”. Let the people decide who will do the corrupiton, No one has the magic wand in his hand to solve this problem, DGFI or army has no right to decide who will do the corruption.
some people are delighted to see all the “corrupt” politicians in jail.All the graft cases filed by the “independent” ACC under emergency rule are illegal. Don’t know if that is violation of human rights or not.
February 6th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
# 23 Borsha
‘Let the people decide who will do the corruption’
That’s the fundamental difference, we don’t want to choose who will loot us for the next five years. We want to move on from choosing lesser of the two evils to choosing a better future. That’s why people of Bangladesh are tolerating a year of unelected govt and soaring prices.
Strongly agreeing with the conclusion of I.Khan’s writing, people today are very much more conscious of justice & rights. People of Bangladesh have set up higher standards. That is our biggest source of optimism.
February 7th, 2008 at 1:05 am
Leave alone all the mugging and looting and killing and black money amassing, our politicians can be jailed only for the destruction of our educational institutions in the name of student (and teacher, to some extent) politics. Education is the most important element in making progress toward a happier, better society. And university life is the “golden period” for most people’s life. Our infinitely illiterate, corrupt, sadistic, extremely narrow-visioned, anti-scientific, anti-progressive, politicians (I know there are exceptions, but I am talking about 80% of them) have been patronizing their party cadres to turn the universities into a cadre playground, practicing rape, chadabazi, killings, fighting, learning using ramdas/kirich/shotgun etc… They destroyed the universities and they destroyed the “golden period” of the general students. The party cadres move around the campuses like kings. General students must be ready to execute any orders they give.
I wish this government stop once for all this destruction of the educational institutions by the wicked politicians, whose children are mostly studying abroad, or are not studying at all!
February 7th, 2008 at 1:16 am
but arent the army human people too? ok its a bit male but…
does the AL really have a solution to the prices thing or are they just pretending?
Wont the sticks and oars come out again the next time the AL feels its unable to contest a fair election? the BNP to AL transition is always more messed up than the other way around.
how much corruption is acceptable so long as the ‘G’ ‘D’ ‘P’ looks pretty?
February 7th, 2008 at 4:39 am
A truly independent National Human Rights Commission would be a great institution for Bangladesh. I am all for it. Is it on the agenda of the CTG?
February 8th, 2008 at 2:12 am
Anyone, interested to know about pre-1/11 Bangladesh and/or having any doubt about it, must see ‘420′, the drama serial by the iconoclastic director Mostafa Sarwar Farooki. This serial provides a graphic portrayal of the socio-political scenario in pre-1/11 Bangladesh.
February 8th, 2008 at 4:29 am
I am a bit confused about listing the current Anti Corruption Commission as something that should be retained in the future.
During 2001-2006, suppose we had an ACC that took orders, and lists of names of people to prosecute, from a committee headed by Nazmul Huda with Salahuddin Quader Chowdhury as its Chief Coordinator? Would that be considered a desirable feature? Because that is what we have now.
Personally, some of us may greatly prefer Masududdin Chowdhury to Salahuddin Quader Chowdhury, or the other way around, but the whole point of a really good and durable system is that it should function well with minimum dependence on the personnel involved.
There is no mistaking the real venom and antipahy that some of us seem have for our politicians. But if for a moment those feelings can be put aside, I would like to submit that what triggers and aids corruption, much more than any individual person, are the twin travails of unaccountability and the lack of transparency, aided by a concentration of power unlimited by any checks and balances.
To my mind, these are all characteristics the current ACC abundantly displays. Upsetting the notion that innocent until proven guilty, the ACC arrests people even before chargesheets of cases have been finalized, and can seize the properties of any individual before even a verdict is delivered against that person. Dr. Jalal Alamgir has already described to us how the people targetted by the ACC are mistreated and abused while in custody.
I think the ACC has about one hundred and fifty cases in various stages. Instead if it had chosen just five cases, and prosecuted them in accordance with our country’s criminal penal code, with the defendants given ample scope for their defense, I would have gladly hailed this ACC as a significant milestone in our country’s history of governance.
Instead, the ACC as it is nw is just another example of a bully terrorizing those feared and hated by the current wielders of state power. Told by the idiots of this current government, it is currently Bangladesh’s biggest collection of sound and fury, and I’m afraid, it signifies nothing.
February 8th, 2008 at 4:39 am
I am wondering whether Much of the disagreement among our people is due to the UNDEFINED meaning of “Golden Era”. Obviously one man’s Golden Era is another’s HELL, in the context of Bangladesh. And my question is when we dreamt of the Golden Era in 1971, what did we (AS A NATION) vision of, as “The Golden Era”?
Not pointing to Rumi specifically - but surely while some think AL time, some think BNP time, and others think NEITHER time was the Golden Era in the last 30 years, so - what EXACTLY is our national dream for our Golden Era!!
Have we been there already, are we aiming for it, or is there a long way to go? Or do we even know what “Golden era” exactly means?
Canb we have some specific definitions?
February 8th, 2008 at 4:48 am
I would, firstly, settle for any time when life isn’t intolerable and unbearable for any of us.
Secondly, the golden age would definitely have to be a time when each and every of us, from the least to the greatest, could see a clear path ahead towards a better future for us and our loved ones.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Brosha
‘Let the people decide who will do the corruption’……..…Choosing the corrupt leaders and letting them to loot the country is not the definition of democracy neither it is call human rights. It will be utterly disgraceful if we try to abet the corruption in the name of democracy and human rights.
February 8th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
rush #32,
No one wants to be ruled by corrupt people. but the situation is worse now. we don’t know who is doing corruption now, how they are doing it. If CTG is clean and transparent in their actions, why can’t they take any kind of criticism? The result of their corruption drive is that a high rise building(RANGS Bhavan) was sentenced to death, and they want us to believe that former power minister Iqbal Hasan’s daughter is more corrupt than Al’s Amu!Some politicians have been sent to jail so that they can tell others: see , if you don’t listen to us,same thing will happen to you.
An unaccountable system cannot fight against corruption, it can only make the system more corrupt.
February 9th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Bangladesh is 150 million people packed in 140,000 sq km. It’s hard to have a golden age, however defined, in a place like that. Our problems are manifold, complex and difficult to solve. There is no silver bullet, there is no quick fix. And yet, many of us get fooled again and again into thinking that there is. And who is this ‘us’?
Let me be perfectly blunt. Us is the English using, op-ed writing, TV talk show attending, foreign educated class. Us is Jyoti Rahman, but also Rumi Ahmed and KGazi. Us is people who should know better than to be fooled again and again into thinking that there is a magic solution.
I remember the euphoria that swept Dhaka in December 1990. I remember the euphoria of the AL supporters in 1996 and BNP supporters in 2001 - eibar deshe kichu hobe. The euphoria in these very pages 12 months ago needs no reminder. Now many of us are thinking that let there be elections and the politicians will take us to the golden age?
I don’t know about the tea stall in Zurain. I wonder whether folks there get suckered in everytime there is a change in government thinking - ah the golden age is here. I do know that the relatively less educated blue collar workers in big cities of the west - the cab drivers and cleaners, factory workers and security guards, street side vendors and warehouse workers - have much less lofty visions.
They don’t dream of a liberal democracy with flawless elections or Dhaka becoming like New York in 10 years or end to corruption overnight. They do, however, wish to avoid repeated political violence, and they want steady improvement in their families’ living standards. This doesn’t mean they are apathetic to politics - they have strong opinions supporting AL/BNP, and they want those opinions heard through regular elections. They are realistic enough to know that no one is going to end corruption overnight, so they don’t even bother hoping about it. These men and women, and people like them in Bangladesh, are whom we should be listening to. Zurain bus stand may be a bit hard for most of us, but these folks can be found within a few hours drive I suspect.
I for one would be perfectly satisfied with a post emergency Bangladesh without an andolon, a steady 5-6% economic growth and stable prices, and, with luck, no jihadi violence or outbursts of spontaneous uprisings like Shonir Akhda.
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Rumi bhai/KGazi, no disrespect meant - I was trying to make a point, not go on a personal attack.
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Ahbab, yes ‘420′ is a good introduction to Bangladeshi politics. I recommend ‘Gangs of New York’ for a primer on the beginning of the American one. And then I suggest reading Toqueville’s ‘Democracy in America’.
February 10th, 2008 at 3:20 am
Small increments is probably the way to go. Publics expectations need not be falsely raised. its not just the politicals, its the media industry that raises expectations.
but in the rush for election i doubt candidates and their parties are going to get too far with ‘Hey chill out bhaias and apis, dampen all your demands, stop andoloning everytime you know our hands are tied for no. We can only do this , this and this, and then only if you like our honesty/realistic approach to politics enought vote en mass for us’.
February 10th, 2008 at 4:54 am
Jyoti #34
Just because “there is no silver bullet, and there is no quick fix” to corruption does not mean we should let civilian govts run amock with public money, and we ACT intelligent by fooling ourselves - that we have “democracy”, and everything is OK.
It is not OK, to allow civilian govts to lead people to ‘the downward spiral’ of corruption and mal-governance just because of a midsummer night’s dream that we will have democracy one day, after 200 years - while still floating in a quagmire of rampant corruption.
Just because “there is no silver bullet, and there is no quick fix to corruption” - does not mean we can let civilian govts KEEP FLOATING in an infestation of corrupt drainage, until they one day discover “democracy”. That doesnt happen.
What must happen is that the drainage must be cleared of corruption FIRST, BEFORE democracy (and free&fair elections) can be established.
The pre-requisite for true democracy is anti-corruption. The whole concept of democracy is that anti-corruption is its life-blood. The theories of ‘checks and balance’ and ’separation of powers’ are the most crucial nerve-centers of democracy - and their FUNDAMENTAL purpose is anti-corruption.
So please lets not fool the people in the backstreets of Jurain and Gabtoli, that if we keep floating in a quagmire of corruption - we are OK and we are working for the people to give them “democracy”. Because we simply are not.
Anti-corruption may not be a overnight quick fix - but at-least its a start to “Ending the downward spiral”.
February 10th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I think we all agree that there is no quick fix to stop the downward spiral but there should be a quick ride to slow down the pace of this downward spiral.
February 10th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
I think we all agree on this page that it is corruption that we (bloggers and op-ed writers) must all go after. And let’s face it: it’s our middle and upper-middle class that needs to fix itself before it can go after the bigwigs (loan-defaulters, ministers, secretaries, army generals). Recall the PA story on how parents can pay lakh taka for Medical College admissions testpapers (the deal included, according to the same report, free lodging the night before the test in the capital city).
My point is, corruption is endemic (some will make the semantic distinction that it is systemic, rather). But the people of Zurain or Gabtoli don’t have the power to engage in serious corruption (some of them might be engaged in toll-collecting from bus-ticket customers just to survive — but that’s really the end result of a corrupt bus-station lessee with political connections). And as long as the middle class is corrupt, it will not have the moral authority to ask the politicians/generals to give up their ways.
So we need to come up with a practicable scheme to at least begin the eradication of this endemic (or systemic) problem. Mass-scale corruption by the *educated* middle-class is what started the downward spiral — a couple of ministers/secretaries could not have gotten us where we are now: such corruption is found (and often punished) in the most advanced of economies — and such wide spread (and *socially accepted*) corruption is what sustains the downward motion at ever increasing speeds.
I’d argue, corruption is the #1 root-cause of all HR violations in Bangladesh. I challenge DP participants counter this argument, or to begin addressing this issue as seriously and vocally as we do any other individual instances HR violation. Otherwise, we might as well spend our precious time and energy weeping in the forest (অরণ্যে রোদন).
February 10th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
#38 “And as long as the middle class is corrupt, it will not have the moral authority to ask the politicians/generals to give up their ways.”
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This comment is constantly repeated and needs final closure, that ‘middle class is corrupt so politicians didnt care’.
That is NOT the reason for systemic corruption in BD. Politicians had the authority to create RULE OF LAW to CONTROL middle class (or any class) corruption. Ssytemic corruption can only be reduced by Rule of LAW.
This is my final comment on corruption - I have said enough on this issue
- but some of us continue to excuse the politicians and blame everybody else, none of whom had any power or authority to create ANTI-CORRUPTION laws.
February 10th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
#39: You misinterpret my lines quoted: it’s not that the “politicians didn’t care” — and nobody has “excused the politicians” here (please do not put words in someone else’s mouth) — rather, they took advantage of the middle class’s own weaknesses towards a life-style beyond their means: and by “middle class” I imply our govt machinery: incl. cadres of bureaucrats, bank officers, police officers, engineers, academics, and most critically, bribe-taking magistrates and judges.
The “endemic” nature of our corruption-ridden society is epitomized by people outside the system worshipping those at the top of our society’s power structure, an extreme example being sycophant poets giving rave reviews to Ershad’s work. But it’s really sustained by those of us who have tolerated “corruption” because “everybody is doing it…”. The *social acceptability* is what has caused corruption to become so ingrained.
Consider this: if you have someone in your extended family or circle of friends that is clearly leading a life-style beyond what his/her legal income permits, have you ever denounced him/her in public? Have you decided to sever all ties with him/her and taken a public stance on it? Did you boycott all social/familial functions hosted by such people? Do not take these comments personally: I know perfectly honest people leading rather austere lives “giving in” at the end by offering their children’s hand in marriage to off-springs of famously corrupt people, *rationalizing* such actions to be for the sake of a secure future for their grand-children.
How many “whistle-blowers” can we identify in the 36 years of our existence? How many members of our govt, incl autonomous and semi-autonomous bodies, can we name who “resigned” in protest of dishonest actions of their superiors? Such people may exist, but my point is we don’t know them, they did not end up being heroes or house-hold names.
February 10th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Another point of KGazi needs to be refuted, rather explicitly, it seems to me: there are more than sufficient ANTI-CORRUPTION laws in the books. All we need is their enforcement (and yes, sometimes the *political will*). But so long as one can buy off judges and magistrates, no amount of law-enacting and/or “separation of judiciary” is gonna do the job.
February 11th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Every single society has an INGRAINED “weaknesses towards a life-style beyond their means” (pure human nature), its not just Bangali middle class.
But what prevents other societies from turning that weakness to ‘the most corrupt nation’ is a national Rule of Law against corruption - which not only IMPLEMENTS the laws, but punishes by use of law enforcement. PUNISHMENT for paying-off judges, accepting bribe, fraud, nepotism, abuse of power never existed in Bangladesh, (anyone could get away with corruption) resulting in the current social acceptance of corruption, into corruption culture.
Why was punishment not encouraged? because politicians did not want to punish themselves!!!
But to say politicians “took advantage” of that weakness again misses the point, which is that, 1) politicians were asssigned the job and took authority as well, to cut that corruption culture
2) instead, politicians not only lacked the will, but were THEMSELVES engaged in the “weaknesses towards a life-style beyond their means”. This weakness within themselves, prevented them from applying, refining and executing the Rule of Law, WHICH, was their promise and expectation, at Independance in 1971. Instead, politicians themselves became the exploiters.
February 11th, 2008 at 3:42 am
Lest anyone get the impression that I’m giving free pass to the army generals, let us observe that of the last 36 years, a total of 17 years (incl the last 1 year) were under the direct rule of a couple of worthless generals. And another 10 under the army’s front org, BNP.
And for those totally unfamiliar with Bangladesh’s War of Independence, let’s also observe that this war was fought under the leadership of Tajuddin Ahmed, one of the brightest sons of our soil, the ablest and most upright amongst our politicians. Perhaps it’s no coincidence that he was mercilessly executed in his prison cell, interned there for no valid reason, by Kh(uni) Mostaque Ahmed, in collusion with a band of rogues from, you guessed it, the cantonment.
I say it was no coincidence because Tajuddin Ahmed reportedly wanted to eliminate our regular army.
February 11th, 2008 at 7:15 am
I’ve been thinking about the debate Rumi bhai and Asif had about the legitimate role of the civil society in a democracy in comments 3/4/7.
In the absence of democracy, I think the first priority of any politically conscious activist (whether you want to call them civil society or something else) should be a return to democracy as quickly as possible. Putting a higher priority on anything else - corruption, environment, privatising Biman, war criminals - to me smacks of either dangerously naive, or outright support of dictatorship. This is not to say those issues don’t matter: they do, and they ought to be pushed for, but not at the expense of a democratic political order. I’ve nothing to say to those who disagree with this basic point - we’ll just agree to disagree there.
Presumably both Asif and Rumi bhai agree on the basic point that democracy is the first priority. Fine, so we work towards restoring democracy - a more effective EC (giving them the benefit of doubt for now, for argument’s sake), better voter list, political party registration, strengthened upazilla and municipalties etc. Suppose democracy is restored along those lines, and we have a government that reflects the public will.
What will we do then about those other issues that are less of a priority now? If we want to argue for effective anti-corruption strategy, or if we want to argue for a better environment policy, or try the war criminals, or choose any other form of activism - how will we do that? What will be our options then?
One option will be to do what we did in the past - civil society organisations and NGOs working directly with newspaper editors and foreign missions to bring about changes to our liking? But isn’t this what brought us 1/11? Presumably this is what Rumi bhai objects to.
But Rumi bhai, what is the alternative? I take it that the alternative involves engaging the politicians. In principle that is fine. But in practice, how exactly are we going to do it? In a partisan political atmosphere - which is part and parcel stuff of democracy - how will we achieve our objectives without ourselves becoming political pawns?
Let me give a specific example. Suppose we want to push for campus police. Presumably the opposition party will see this as a way of government party trying gain an upper hand in the universities. How will we push for it without looking partisan?
February 12th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Jyoti has raised some good points that prompts me with the following, assuming “we” are the civil society.
The first thing “we” need to do is stand before a mirror — so long as people like B Chowdhury, who famously offered the choice of the Geeta or the Quran (in lieu of AL and BNP, respectively), are part of “us”, we are not going to get any credibility or legitimacy from any quarter, let alone “efficacy” for the rest of the society.
The role of a civil society, by definition, should be pretty much constant and consistent no matter who’s holding sway over the Airport Road office: demand for justice and transparency to start with. Without that, a return to democracy is only going to be just another point on this vicious cycle we go through.
And that brings us to the issue of how the civil society can avoid becoming pawns… but even before that, a definition of the civil society may be in order — there seems to be none that’s universally applicable — but the concept excludes politicians, govt servants, and the military. Ideally, it could include the professional organizations (but in our case those are extremely politicized as well as corrupt). But most definitions seem to indicate that a civil society can distinguish itself only by its *independence*.
This brings us back to what I proposed in the beginning: the civil society can function properly only so long it retains its authenticity. And for that, it needs to continuously review its own identity (by checking at the mirror) — and flush out of itself its uncivil and uncouth elements on a regular basis.
The members of the civil society may have many different points of view, and they may have their own coterie to take care of (such as doctors, engineers, business, arts, or NGOs for micro-credit, labor-rights, minority-rights), but the one thing they need across the board, above all, is freedom from hypocrisy.
Only by building a track record of its own *civility* can this civil society avoid “looking partisan” when touching sensitive issues such as campus police…
February 13th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
We had ample opportunity to live in the age of Glorious Sunshine, which helped to achieve the glorious milestone of Most Corrupt Nation in the World. As day follows by night,so does the sunshine by darkness. It’s the rule of nature….let’s darkness give a chance to re-evaluate the importance of sunshine. Only patience will be the ultimate winner. Until then, let’s enjoy the ride!
February 14th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
The AL years look doubly glorious in further retrospection, with no DGFI torture cells and then being the only instance in BD history of a political party leaving office voluntary at the end of its five-year rule upon losing an election.
February 16th, 2008 at 5:12 am
Jyoti #44
The answer to the question you posed in your comment is very clear.
The solution that has been shoved through the throat of the nation is the option as you referred to as the ‘civil society- eidtor-professionals- military approach’. And I am surpised that Jyoti, with his so much passion/love for Bangladesh is not certain about an alternative to this option.
The alternative is all around us, that is the Indian way, the democratic aproach. If 1/11 is the Pakistan style approach, Indian democracy is the alternative. After seeing comparative progress of India and Pakistan over the last 50 years, we should be left with no illusion that Pakistan style 1/11 will be the panacea.
Anyone who follows India’s politics, will know that the state of Indian politics in 70s, 80s and even 90s, was no better than Bangladesh politics as of October 2007.
There was no reason that the political deadlock could not have been solved without killing democracy. But it happened. I blame it on the pakistani ghost hanging over our shoulder. Those folks like Motiur Rahman, who make their living by selling the spirit of 1971, were the first and most vocal guiding Bangladesh towards the Pakistan path.
February 16th, 2008 at 8:03 am
Rumi bhai, I’m afraid I expressed myself quite poorly in the last paras of comment 44. Lest there be any misunderstanding - I have absolutely no confusion about the Indian path being better than the Pakistani path. I also have no confusion that 1/11 has set us off on a Pakistani path - ironic given its cheerleaders spent their golden age fighting the Pakistani path. And as I said, anyone putting a higher priority on anything - corruption, environment, war crimes - than a return to democracy are either living in fool’s paradise or are supporting the Pakistani path. So we agree on the alternative, and I shouldn’t have asked ‘what is the alternative’.
What I should have asked, and what I meant to have asked is this:
how will we achieve all those other things - anti-corruption, environment, war crimes - without killing democracy? As I said in 34, I don’t think we need to set ourselves lofty goals - practicable small steps are fine. My question is not about the broad ideology, it is more about practical nitty-gritty stuff.
And it is not rhetorical. I genuinely want to know how we will achieve these things with the politicians back in power? How do they do it in India?
We have seen enough Pakistanisation, let’s seriously ponder Indianisation. How will we take the Indian path after there is an election?
February 16th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Jyoti (#49): To take the “Indian path”: i. Eliminate army’s meddling with politics (in BD, being a small entity, the only way may be to phase out the army slowly, but completely); ii. Demand for democracy and transparency within the political parties down to the grass-roots; iii. And finally, if you’re still outside the “system”, follow my script (#45) about the role and responsibilities of the civil society.
Alternatively, you can take Democracy 101 from just about any accredited college.
(I was going to suggest, go to India and study their system up close, but that entails the risk of getting branded as India’r dalal.)
February 17th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
As long as politicians in BD continue to act in the Pakistan way, so will the army be forced to return TOO in the Pakistan way.
So If BD wants to take the Indian path, then parliament itself must learn also learn FIRST, to follow the Indian path.
Bangladesh cannot expect to act in parliament and on streets like fraudulent hooligans, and expect to magically transcend to the ‘indian way’, without army even reacting.