Tue 21 Aug 2007

Comment from Dhaka by “eishob-dinratri”
Night in Dhaka. ALl day, traffic snarled, burning cars, protests spreading to BUET, JNU. In late afternoon, the Army man who instigated the brawl removed by army command. Then in evening, the bombshell– Army removed from DU campus. But students now have 5 demands, including personal apology from Army Chief.
I celebrate student activism, I salute student politics, I applaud their brave role in ousting Ayub/Yahya, Ershad. But I hesitate to celebrate them now. We are in very dangerous, unstable & uncertain times, and we are all wondering what the exit strategy is. For Army, for CTG, and most importantly, for us. For Bangladesh. Because if protests oust the CTG, then what? What comes in its place? I worry constantly about what will fill that dangerous vacuum.
Businesspeople I spoke to today are very worried, that this will indicate a return to the violent anarchy of the last one year. But business is not a fan of CTG/Army either. I was talking to an importer yesterday and he was talking about how the economy has come to a standstill by the misguided policies of the Army/CTG. We all cheered their anti-corruption campaign (who does not love the sight of boner raja in shackles, and tareq in handcuffs), but because they went after everyone (and yet, NOT everyone– we know who is still out and about), and because the tenor has been so against all business (”raghob bowal ebong chunoputi dhorbo”) business is terrified. Consider the op-ed in DS a few days ago “A Business Unfriendly Government.” That says it all. No one is opening LCs for fear of investigation. Imports have plummeted, prices are shooting through the roof. Now that they have unleashed economic forces they do not understand, the Army is trying to do rationing and open special shops. Farhad Mazhar wrote sarcastically (he has his own agenda, more on that later) “Is the army now going to be opening muudi’r dokan? is this their role?”.
A banker at HSBC said money len-den has frozen because people are afraid to buy anything expensive (you may say they should not do wasteful consumption, but that is sepaate debate) and get targeted by joint forces. People are afraid to keep money in the bank because a swollen bank account will generate a letter from Dudok. The economy is going into slow-motion nosedive and the Army has no idea how to revive it.
In desperation, this gov’t has become the first IN THE WORLD to sign the IMF’s No Loan Advisory Agreement. Something IMF has tried to get weak African nations to sign for a year, and not one has agreed. But weak, compliant Bangladesh has. Under an unelected government.
In this situation, one scenario is that we get to Dec ‘08 and get elections under a weaker BNP and AL, sans Hasina/Khaleda (sans because that is Army’s only safety guarantee). Perhaps BNP/AL form a coalition govt because neither has enough seats. (Jamaat is wild card).
The students clearly have genuine, pent-up resentment towards Army. I am sure that played a huge part in things spiralling out of control in 24 hours. All this under a state of emergency. And the Army knows that if there is a mass uprising they will be helpless. They will have to say, as Ershad’s C-in-C said in 1991, “Sir, I cannot fire on my own people.”
But Army also knows ones thing is different now– the vast spread of private universities, which has removed a huge portion of student population from the centers of politicization. This is either a good thing (remembering session jam, cadre action, chadabaji) or a bad thing (remembering all the times that students have protested before anyone else dared). All depends on where you sit.
Showing the same deft light touch that it has shown since 1981, BTV is choosing just this very moment to premiere a music video with a horrendously bad flood song (”AMADER SOBAIKE LORTE HOBE” or something) with reams of gratuitous footage of Moeen U Ahmed and Mainul Hossein giving flood relief. Dear BTV, you just don’t get it.
But now what?
The more scared the Army gets, the more dangerous it is. From what I have seen so far, Moeen U Ahmed seems at least to be an honest man (that is his rep). But if things don’t go well, he could easily get toppled by the hotheaded juniors. Imagine: things are spinning out of control, Moeen U refuses to declare martial law, and he is overthrown by an ambitious General. Imagine that General is like Zia-ul-Huq, using Islam as his baton. Will that be the Bangladesh we wanted?
Although there is no predicting where histories will end up, I think a lot of France. The black and arab youth of the ghettos rose up and burned half the cities, and brought all of France to a standstill. As a dorect result of this, because of the fear that violence unleashed (tinged with race paranoia, at which the French excel), Nicolas Sarkozy (who had called the rioters “scum”) was elected. All commentators say that he catapulted to national prominence based on his response to the riots. But why did black/arab youth not get what they wanted? Because it was spontaneous violence with no leaders, no spokesperson, no demands and no political party. All they could shout at the cameras was ‘cops out’. So they did not get that demand, nor did they translate the riots into anything meaningful (other than some window dressing of visible minority appointments).
Is it revolutionary violence if it ends up empowering the state?
One an instinctive level, when I see the footage of police chasing students, with my inherent Bangali suspicion of state/police (and our history), I cheer. Students heros, Police villains. Students heros, Army villain. Army hotao, Police Bhag.
But when I talk to the businessman who says if things continue like this, “all industries will collapse”, I shiver with fear. Jute, our golden jute, which was our biggest example of how Pakistan was sucking our revenue dry, that Jute has collapsed. It is so easy to destroy things.
I don’t know which side to cheer. I can find no heroes. Only losers, and the biggest one is our country.
August 21st, 2007 at 1:20 pm
Please have a look on Regular Up date of E-Bangladesh on Cureent event-
http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/08/21/special-newsline-du-riot/#respond
August 21st, 2007 at 1:24 pm
BDNews24 is reporting that the army will pull out of the campus.
“Dhaka, Aug 21 (bdnews24.com) — The government Tuesday decided to withdraw troops from the Dhaka University campus, a day after a spell of violence left about 200 people, mostly students, injured.
The pullout begins at 8pm Tuesday, the government said in a statement.
The chief adviser’s press secretary Syed Fahim Munaim had earlier confirmed the news to bdnews24.com after a rushed meeting at the Chief Adviser’s Office.
The move for army pullout from the violence-torn campus was meant to ease the nervy situation that continued through a second day.
Meanwhile, angry Dhaka University students demanded a public apology from army chief Moeen U Ahmed for what they said was an unwarranted incident on the campus.
General Moeen has been set a deadline to apologise to the students by Wednesday noon.
From a press conference at Madhu’s Canteen on the campus, the students said if the army chief did not apologise they would press ahead with their movement.
The students rolled out a five-point charter of demands.”
Hopefully this will end this particular crisis. But the regime can’t afford another such crisis, and they should expedite the exit strategy.
August 21st, 2007 at 1:57 pm
What has happened in Dhaka University is a sign of “what can happen if…”. This time it happened without proper leadership…without any set goal or agenda (I don’t think removing of the army camp from campus counts as an objective for a movement!). However, this just shows what the Bangladeshi people can do if and when they want!! All that is lacking is the leadership. So I think the current government/army leadership has much to think about.
One other point:
Someone here expressed concern about the loss of safety of public property and lack of civility among the protesters and among the general public. He/she was also concerned about the “what if scenario” if the current govt. fails and wanted army leadership to bring “civility” in public affairs! This is interesting. So now we need army to bring civil(ity) in our life? Hmm….
August 21st, 2007 at 2:14 pm
Joyoti yes you are Corret. Basically you see
Most probably two days back BD News Reported
about the US policy of Aid for the development of Bangladesh Army on the basis of human right. In Fact problem of the print &Eletornic media of Bangladesh are that they could not publish this thing.So we are unaware of lots of things which should not be.
Even in later I did not find any where this same piee existed. This report explained about abusing human rights by BD army.Now it is the incident of today.May be It is another reason for army not to go heard line.
Asif has seen the possiblity in other thread
that army may come open. Lots of us are also
Scared of suh thing. But It will be a big step now for establishing due proess. May be
Tuesday Club of Dhaka has hanged the policy for Bangladesh.
August 21st, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Here is an interesting development….what’s brewing?
Army chief General Moeen U Ahmed today paid a courtesy call on President Iajuddin Ahmed at Bangabhaban.
General Moeen apprised the president of army’s participation in the activities taken to support the flood victims across the country besides their routine works.
The president assured him of all cooperation in their efforts for the flood-hit people.
August 21st, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Asif (#3), It could be about the imminent Sept. 5 expiry of the President’s term.
Or it could be an assurance, “even if you ‘choose’ to retire, mr. president, don’t worry, we won’t come after your corrupt son whose misdeeds were revealed by papers so many times. remember, we are very selective in who we prosecute.”
Just speculations…
August 21st, 2007 at 2:48 pm
I believe its only the beginning of the downfall of this Army backed CTG, they have deviated from their stated goal and have managed to bring a halt to the economic activities of the country through their naive approach (rather academic then practical) towards market economy, their debacle with foreign aid and biased approached towards political parties confirms their lack of comprehension, Bangladeshi people are far to sophisticated when it comes to political awareness.
August 21st, 2007 at 2:57 pm
9pm in Dhaka. Police clash with students at Nilkhet.
Now we are hearing reports on “5 dofa” demand given by students. What I heard so far:
*Immediately remove all army presence from every national campus
*Moeen U Ahmed personally apologizes by 12 noon
*Return environment for democracy to country
August 21st, 2007 at 3:07 pm
CSB reporting new tear gas attack in Nilkhet right now. Area completely deadlocked, running fights. All cameras blocked off, CSB reporter reporting via mobile phones.
No video or still cameras being allowed.
Students not being allowed to leave the campus. They are blocked inside the campus. Many students leave campus to eat, now they cannot. Campus was open until 7pm, and then blockade began.
August 21st, 2007 at 3:09 pm
A friend just reported pitched battle on Sat Masjid Road all along Dhanmondi.
August 21st, 2007 at 3:15 pm
The confrontation on Sat Masjid Road is between students and police. Jhikatola area guarded, as well as BDR camp entrance.
Pitched battles, tear gas spreading into Dhanmondi roads.
The witness said that the protestors who were there were not TOKAI. They were very emphatic about this point.
August 21st, 2007 at 3:18 pm
Eyshob Dinratri,
Another small thanks from a NRB for keeping us so well updated. You too Dhaka Bashi
August 21st, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Media is reality.
My friend called and said “Don’t go out tonight, situation is bad.”
Sitting at home, I am flipping the channels. And this is my reaction.
BTV: I curse them out for showing crude propaganda flood video. Once again, politics w/ flood.
Boishakhi: They are reporting on some government meeting, ticker shows nothing about DU. I swear at them “dalal channel”. But maybe I missed the top-of-hour news, I don’t know.
ETV: Showing nothing. I wonder if they are silenced because they showed so much last night. But I don’t know. I am channel surfing too fast to know.
CSB: 24 hour news channel, so they are showing. No footage of evening, so running footage from daytime. I start watching the sequence of images
- students massed around oporajeyo bangla: my heart swells with pride
- women marching: I feel it is 1991 again
- I see some leaders marching, and I see the familiar sight of people forming a cordon around them so they can walk with ease: my heart sinks, will this be the next Obhi-Niru?
- I see police firing tear gas: I think, how dare they
- I see smashed shop windows in Nilkhet: not this again
- Footage of shopkeepers trapped inside Nilkhet shop, women among them: my mind changes completely, what is their crime, I think?
- Footage of tank-like riot police car again: I think, you guys started this, get out of campus
- Now some protesters: but these people look young, I start to wonder if they are students.
- Shirt pant wearing people: ok, these must be students
- I see very long sticks in their hands, lots of sticks: i get worried
I get thoroughly confused. Why do I have so many conflicting emotions from one piece of footage. I switch channels. But only CSB is running in depth, so I switch back.
Thank God for CSB.
Then I remember who owns CSB.
Oh God. Saqa Chowdhury.
I switch again. Need to get my mind off the news.
I go to BBC. A Partition Anniversary special called Pakistan-India-07. It’s a segment on India’s IT Revolution. Before I know it I am hooked.
They are showing the school cyber games. I watch bespectacled fifth graders race through the answers to an IT quiz.
What is ctrl-z?
bzztm undo
What is minimize window?
bzzt to make it so small it goes into taskbar
What carries more data, floppy or internet?
bzzt, internet
The kid laughs, “these are easy questions”
Cut to another scene. A teacher giving inspiring lecture. “One of you could be the next Bill Gates.”
I get really depressed…
August 21st, 2007 at 4:00 pm
Ditto
Cheers
August 21st, 2007 at 4:20 pm
Students have a right to demonstrate and protest any injustice- but do they have the right to break private cars,public buses on the road;specially when the owners of those cars are innocent and had nothing to do with the incident– who will pay for the damages ???
The wide spread demo with lathi and vandalizing on streets of public property by the students was joined in by the the people from the slum areas–clearly seen on video footage of different news channels– they even tried to loot the bank- this type of irresponsibilty is injustice.
So to demonstrate for injustice the Students diod injustice to general Citizen by destroying private and public property– they must choose to demonstrate and protest in different style– to fight back police/army is ok– but break the car of the innocent Citizen– and imagine what would be the condition of the passengers in the car.
These type of action was going on after 28 0ctober 2006 by the Political parties and that resulted in the formation of the Interim Government headed by CTG and his Advisers but backed by the ARMY. Students must realize that this sort of undemocratic actions spells disaster for them and concerned Authorities brutal actions become justified as they are bound to protect the Citizen and Public property.
The University teachers and and Students concerned must think about these undemocratic steps.
August 21st, 2007 at 4:21 pm
Nice writeup, Eishob. You’re right about India. They are going to leave us so far behind (at present rates of maturity and progress) that in 15-20 years, the difference between us and them will be as stark as that between the USA and Mexico. And then just like in Mexico, a tenth of our population will be heading for the borders with a fond farewell to Sonar Bangla.
Unless, that is, we can hijack/borrow some of their political leadership to teach our own stupid crop a few urgent lessons in patriotism and proper policymaking. What are the chances?
August 21st, 2007 at 4:49 pm
This is pathetic. We dont know whats good for us. There was no reason to display this behaviour except to prove that as a jaat we are completely beyond redemption. Finally when things were looking positive Bangalees take to the street to prove to the world that they will not stand up to correct themselves or help themselves and instead will burn, pillage and destroy everything in sight to prove that their misplaced passions still exist. I am sad. Very sad for our country today.
August 21st, 2007 at 5:16 pm
Zorro,
“Finally when things were looking positive…”
A CG government backed by the army who are doing whatever they want, without due process, is not really the ideal scenario we are looking for. Yes, agreed, they have done a great amount of good work over the past few months, which the students also acknowledged at the beginning of their reign but now, when things are getting out of hand, someone needs to protest to bring about check and balance for this interim govt. But I agree with you that violence is not the desired tool to make a point and actively protest. As Phantom pointed out, they have no right to burn cars on the streets.
August 21st, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Canon,
How can you have such dreadful wishes? What is the fault of the innocent by-stander who is having to shed blood because of all this turmoil that he/she was never a part of? Or are you one of those who had stood by RAB even when they were killing innocent people, your reasoning being that some innocent lives need to sacrificed for the greater good? I’m sorry but using destructive ways and killing innocent poeple is not the way to protest! Even though I would have liked to support a mass student movement at this point, I really hope that nothing comes out of this so that these students learn a lesson that they cannot succeed in bringing about a change by burning buses, breaking cars and using lathis as tools for protest.
August 21st, 2007 at 6:28 pm
I think the problem with Bangalees is they can’t stop complaining and do not recognize how to benefit themselves.
Compared to the last 12 years of “DEMOCRACY” (a buzzword to some), the last few months have been almost unbeleivably “POSITIVE”. We have tried to remove the virus of corruption that has crippled this country, we have tried to remove chadabazi, hartal, chaos, anarchy, graft, political fighting, make the judiciary independent, show the no-one is above the law. Be honest before the last CTG all of us use to sit in our living rooms and moan and whine about how ‘desh was being destroyed by corruption and partisan politics…if ONLY someone would do something. And now that someone(CTG) is (and you must acknowledge here that army did not come in jsut themselves…it was a people uprising ..including some intellectuals and civil servants) we are so quick to jump OFF the wagon and start shooting our own tires off.
Bangladesh has real problems and needs real solution. There is no point in comparing this CTGs actions to gold /switzerland standards. Look at the picture and help yourslef out of your misery instead of sabotaging yourself. Everyone knows about checks and balances and I commend you for the thought but for Gods sake give it a chance.
August 21st, 2007 at 7:15 pm
O God what is happening. The world is coming to an end. The student has come out in the streets and toppled the army government. ….bla bla bla.
What a bunch of crap.
I can’t however understand what the attempt of “Til ke taal kora” will serve any purpose.
Anyways, the “gruesome?!!” and “dangerous!!??” picture that is being painted abot the situation in Dhaka is rather entertaining.
August 21st, 2007 at 7:18 pm
One quick question, Zorro: You claimed that the last few months in Bangladesh is “unbeleivably positive”. I think it was yesterday in Prothom-Alo, Muhammad Zafar Iqbal wrote an article. I his article, he talked about one case where a major of army went to the VC’s office at Chittagong University and pressured him to appoint 5 teachers (of course, his candidates!). Well, the VC resigned and the major got his wish…those 5 got appointments…This is just one picture of positiveness!
One thing should be clear…the apparent failure of democracy in Bangladesh is not because democracy is a bad system. It’s the individuals who ran the system. If you have a headache, it does not make any sense to cut-off your head…does it? So why kill democracy because we failed? Rather try to improve us and improve the system so that we can move to the right direction.
The Bangladeshis are not always complaining. The vast majority in this country really does not care who is ruling the country. They are too busy with their everyday struggle for “Daal-Bhat”. It’s the small fraction of literate buddhijibis who were/are complaining. And since they really don’t have the guts to capture power on their own (if any one of them contests in any poll, he/she will lose by a landslide), their solution is to give the power to the army.
In the aforementioned article by MJI, he tells a story at the end. It’s about a big bull tied using a rope. If the bull wants, he can be free as the rope wan’t strong enough. But still the man was able to tie him down….The question is…for how long?
August 21st, 2007 at 7:20 pm
This upsurge reflects many symptoms of frustration within the country. Heard in a BBC conversation that the procession near to Dhaka college drew many small businessmen and hawkers into the crowd. No wonder why? It also shows that unlike 50s to 90s, general students are capable of running and organizing a movement without the help of any political groups. But I’ve another fear too. Many a times, Bangalees movement with good meaning is hijacked by a vested quarter. Was reading in bdnews that one of the advisors house has been attacked and vandalized. Thats certainly should not be the destination of this movement. Our supporting to this student movement doesn’t mean that we oppose to the good work that this Govt. has done. On the other hand, its also pity to see how this CTG started with so much popularity and where it has landed now. They should have a reality check.
August 21st, 2007 at 7:27 pm
In all this mess, spare a thought for our oft-maligned, yet always called for, police force. All the retired military and civil personnel who regularly sing paeans to our “glorious” and “foreign currency earning” military rarely find it in themselves to say a single good word about our police force. Yet, when the administration finds itself in trouble, it’s not the Army or RAB who come out, it’s the poor policemen with their substandard ration and unbelievably low wages.
DP admins kindly allowed me to post a thread a couple of weeks ago, where I asked for concrete steps that the CTG had actually taken. I wish they had taken the simple step of elevating the police pay structure to one similar to the army. Now that’d have been a worthwhile reform.
August 21st, 2007 at 7:36 pm
Zorro says:
I’ve spent my whole life hearing this phrase, “the problem with Bangalees…” coming from the lips of a few Bangalees who ironically do nothing but complain about Bangalees.
I happen to believe Bengalis and Bangladeshis can do great things and have done great things. Self-criticism and introspection are important and valuable tools for self-improvement, but this constant generalization by these few is a little tired and a little old. It about time these folks got over their colonial angst.
August 21st, 2007 at 7:46 pm
“this constant generalization by these few is a little tired and a little old”
Mash, you forgot to add: a little baseless, a little unscientific and wholly ironic.
“Democracy” as a buzzword? I think “national unity” and “discipline” are far bigger buzzwords! Don’t make me laugh zorro!
August 21st, 2007 at 7:57 pm
Mash,
I think you are saying the same thing as well.
My point was we need to look at ourselves and improve. That is for example not going out on the streets and burn some poor chaps car or some poor dokandars only means of sustenance protesting who knows what (5 months of peace, traquility and accoutability?) . And instead the students should start a movement where they can focus on STUDYING and improve thier country. The Pakistanis are gone…they have been gone for a while and now we are fighting ourselves and cyclically creating our own demons. Though I agree that our student politics have been a lifeline for political vibrancy I think that there is a point you need to step forward or step back ? and participate in fixing our systems rather than voluntarily sabotages. This caretaker govt came as a result of people, civil society, army, some of the political parties, international interventions and various socio-political events. It was a screaming protest by the land trying to correct its lost track. If this fails, WE ALL FAIL and will be lost again in our vicious political and God Forbid corrupt quagmire.
August 21st, 2007 at 8:08 pm
tacit, thanks for pointing out the difficult job of police forces. These are the men and women, the front line law enforcement personnel that keeps order in the country, granted many of them are corrupt, lack integrity, but most are this way because of insufficient salary and past political interference. Without improving salary structures, which is difficult to do in a poor country like ours, we cannot expect for them to become honest, just out of desh-prem or because there is a new CTG. These “corruptions of need” at the lowest level, should be dealt with differently than the “corruptions of greed” at higher levels and at the top, which affects the country most. I am not promoting corruption, but only pointing out priorities of which ones should be focused on first.
The police need our thanks and appreciation for keeping order in a volatile country like Bangladesh, where so many internal and external forces are at work. But they must not get over zealous and use excessive force and they must at all cost avoid serious injury or death to anyone in handling these unrests.
I am reposting the following, as the other thread is already old:
I am pleasantly surprised that people are not blindly supporting the “heroic” students. Peaceful protest is a democratic right, but destroying property is a crime. Cars and buses are imported they need to be replaced with additional hard-earnced foreign currency. While I salute the language movement and other historic student protests for legitimate national grievances, this incident simply shows how the students has been given a false sense of power by the Jalao Porao culture of the ruling political parties. I call for exemplary punishments for all crimes committed regardless of sides. Even though the Army has not been perfect before, after 1/11 they have an obligation to the country to show that they are just and they should publicly show it by punishing the criminal arrogant army personnel who started this incident. At the same time, all criminal students should be separated from the rest and treated as criminals which they are. And if the students continue to create unrest and disrupt public order without any legitimate reason, then I maintain that the concerned institutions should be closed down and the trouble makers sent home.
Also, I am glad finally someone pointed out the real reason for price increase, the business people are scared to go the banks and open L/C, everyone is keeping a low profile.
Come on Moeen and Fakhruddin, if you have taken charge of the nation, manage it for a change and try to be effective, dont sleep anymore, wake up, get the business people on board and bring some normalcy. You cannot do it alone, not with BDR doing import and food business, of which they know nothing about. Stop this stupid charade of fighting corruption and try to solve the real problems like flood, price increase, employment creation, getting ready for the 2008 election with a proper exit/entry strategy etc., don’t let the people down anymore, they need and deserve better. You have taken the torch and there is no way out till you create a better Bangladesh and a better leadership to hand it over to.
August 21st, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Mash (#24), Well-put.
Zorro (#19), Ahem… IMHO, the Bangalees who have been complaining the most are Gen. Moeen and Mainul Hosein. Since March, Moeen has been complaining about politicians and saying that the last 36 years, we gained nothing, that politicians spoiled everything, etc etc… perhaps a lament that army didnt rule the last 36 years. Then he complained about businessmen, saying they’re unscrupulous, they’re to blame for inflation. Then he went to complain about flood relief, blaming the govt’s halfhearted effort on political parties. Today (see New Age) he’s whining about bankers, saying they’re scaring the businessmen. And in between Moinul is putting in his whining, saying people are to blame for this government’s failure.
But, Zorro, according to you, these constant Bangalee complainers are responsible for an “unbelievably positive” Bangladesh. Er… why is complaining bad then? It seems to go hand in hand with unbelievable success.
August 21st, 2007 at 8:40 pm
This topic deserves a lot more space, but I think it’s worth addressing, no matter how briefly. The belief that if this government runs into trouble, then Bangladesh as a country will be in grave peril, is laughable and facile.
If the CTG wants, they can separate the judiciary and the election commission from the executive, form a national security council, and then hold elections in a month. An exit strategy in about eleven seconds. No doubt our eleven excellent advisors, their various military and foreign “gurus”, their international “murubbis”, and the dynamic duo of Matiur Rahman and Mahfuz Anam can plot something much more elegantly devious.
As a last resort they can turn to… Ms Renata Lok Dessallien. One press statement from her was enough to send our oh-so-patriotic armymen, dreading the loss of their precious foreign exchang, go running to Bongobhovon to install a new government. Maybe another press report will get us out of this whole mess.
August 21st, 2007 at 11:23 pm
#30 tacit, why are you so tired and eager to get rid of current CTG, the people of the country were tired of AL/BNP for 16 years. Despite many shortcomings, I believe most people are still willing to give them a chance to see if they can deliver an improvement over what we had before by the end of 2008. If you do not like something that they are doing why don’t you provide constructive criticism and concrete suggestions.
The old status quo is gone, its not going to come back, to create a new order will definitely take some time, or do you want to go back to the old status quo?
August 21st, 2007 at 11:30 pm
tacit, #30, You’ve put the whole exit strategy very nicely in perspective. I also think people worry too much about the exit strategy for Bangladesh.
But — when the CTG thinks about exit strategy, it is thinking about an exit for itself. Now, If the CTG has acted honorably why should it be worried about exit strategy, it should just hold elections, like you suggested. But the fact is that it has NOT acted honorably, and it would be in a lot more trouble than the effigy-burning and car-breaking that the students are doing now. So exit strategy basically means, forget about Bangladesh, how do Masud-Moinul and co. get out without getting lynched? The longer they stay, the more fed-up people are getting. The student outburst is just an example of pent-up frustration and anger.
August 21st, 2007 at 11:54 pm
I find it amusing that these rioting students rather fight over a football match and burn and pillage public property but chose to remain quiet while the country was heading towards disaster prior to 1/11.
I am also very disappointed by comments of regular contributors. Many are rejoicing over the rioting and tacitly supporting lawlessness. Yes students have the right to protest but it does not mean burning and destroying public property and putting people’s life in danger. Students should act better than “half educated army persons” and learn to express their grivences in a peaceful manner.
As far as the Army and CTG goes, after initial mismanagement of the whole matter, they have quickly taken all the right steps in order to calm the situation. Once again it shows that the CTG is capable of making mistakes but are also able to admit their mistakes and most importantly take corrective measures.
The CTG has decided to withdraw the military from Campus. Moeen U Ahmed has apologized and has promised to punish any of his men who may have been involved. An independent Judicial Council is to be appointed to investigate the whole incident etc.
Once again the CTG has proved that although not perfect they are a better alternative than Khaleda/Hasina.
August 22nd, 2007 at 12:56 am
33 boishakhi: nicely put.
32 Maf Koira Den: If Bangladesh was in the 21st century like Sweden or Switzerland, yes they could think about a conventional exit strategy, but its not. They have no exit strategy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_ibn-Ziyad
“On April 29, 711, the armies of Tariq landed at Gibraltar (the name Gibraltar is derived from the Arabic name Jabal Tariq, which means mountain of Tariq, or the more obvious Gibr Tariq, meaning rock of Tariq). Upon landing, Tariq is said to have burned his ships then made the following speech, well-known in the Muslim world, to his soldiers:
أيّها الناس، أين المفر؟ البحر من ورائكم، والعدوّ أمامكم، وليس لكم والله إلا الصدق والصبر…
O People ! There is nowhere to run away! The sea is behind you, and the enemy in front of you: There is nothing for you, by God, except only sincerity and patience. (as recounted by al-Maqqari).
The Moorish armies swept through Hispania and, in the summer of 711, won a decisive victory when the Visigothic king, Roderic, was defeated and killed on July 19th at the Battle of Guadalete.”
Student outburst my foot, arrest the criminals, expel them and make the criminals and their parents pay for the burnt cars, buses, shops, the tear gas canisters and rubber bullets by selling their home and land and then come back and talk to me. Why should a hungry 150 million have to pay for this. What a bunch of pampered clueless pathetic spoilt brats. Without their criminal political backers or foreign agents and saboteurs they have no leg to stand on.
August 22nd, 2007 at 1:31 am
I hope the CTG finally arrests the students who were involved in “Jalao Porao” du jour, a snapshot of things back in last year. If these students are arrested and tried, correct me if I’m wrong, it will the first time of such an event after DU anarchy.
Let me be honest - those who are using this event to prove the dire scenario in BD would have thought otherwise(an overwhelming majority for sure if not all), if KZ was in jail instead of SH. Sorry to bring our Begums in this mess.
Instead of being so critical of CTG, please be patient and wait if the complete their mandate with an election in 2008.
Someone alluded here Army’s $$ earning from UN jobs with a strange sarcasm, what is wrong with earning money honestly?
People in BD still want to give this govt a chance to do their job.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 am
A clarification that should not be necessary, but must be made anyways: I am no more anxious than the average Bangladeshi to witness the exit of this CTG. I was just pointing out the fallacy in the belief that a premature exit, and failure, for this CTG would sound the death-knell for our nation-state. I believe it would not.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:18 am
I’m glad to read that seniors in the Army acknowledged that mistakes were made and the involved Army personnel will be dealt with.
I hope that doesn’t make our students go on a powertrip…
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:32 am
Read Oxford Analytica’s observations on student’s uprising here:
http://brishchik.blogspot.com/
http://bdfact.blogspot.com/
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:49 am
I thought Tokai are always used for burning cars in Bangladesh. This newes proved me wrong. DU should be breed ground for education and knowledge, I afraid that this become breed ground for violence.
It seems to me Bangladesh might go back another 50 years if students can continue do what they are doing. I do not see any tolerance, I understand that army made a mistake but they are not Pakistani army,, they are our own army.
Please have tolerance and grow up to respect to each others. Nobody will help you if you do not help yourselves.
–M. M. Chowdhury, USA
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:53 am
Abed Khan in today’s SAMAKAL:
“Just a few days ago Police Chief Noor Mohammed was saying that police need to understand that one wrong bullet from them can bring down the entire government. Today I would like to give him a gift of his own far-seeing statement. Not just bullet, a wrong behavior, wrong thought and wrong decision can again throw the country into the darkness of uncertainty….Yes arguments can happen, rough words can be exchanged. I accpet that. But what was the need to return to the army camp, bring back your comrades and start beating that student?…Those who have done this incident only understand muscle. They don’t understand student society, they don’t understand its history, they don’t understand Dhaka University, they don’t understand the language movement.
…In The name of reform, it seems everything is being smashed. Those who are doing this, I don’t know what political text they have read, but we have to remind them that democracy finds life through its exercise, and reform cannot be imposed suddenly. Those who are suddenly taking this role have opened up too many fronts at the same time. I think it is time they analyze the situation with new eyes. They should be grateful to the students for creating a situation which allows them to do a fresh analysis.”
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:28 am
Great power and its potentials being wasted what an unfortunate nation!
Had this kind of flare up being used against tyranny, nepotism, corruptions that has destroyed almost great portion of the good possibilities and our own hopes, we would have surpassed Malaysia or Korea by now in term of economic uplift mend and social well beings.
I find it very sad to perceive that the same element of great force for more than a decade has been protecting the oppressors and their loot (taking their fair share).
Being misguided by the leaders, when their own institution’s pride and glory ware brought down they venerated, when their own future and its path was annihilated through structured paradigm, the same great force contained their frustration and rested in their filthy dormitories. Misguidance ruling roost in our society.
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:07 am
Rajshahi University erupted in the morning.
Demonstrations is going on the following roads/areas in Dhaka:
1.Gulshan circle-1 to Amtoli(Mohakhali Area)
2.Roads to/from Dhaka University areas
3.Sher-E-Bangla Agriculture University areas
4. New market areas
5. Rair Shah Bazar(Gulistan)
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:22 am
Rajshahi U student police battles. Rumors of one dead, but nothing confirmed. Police trying to enter campus.Students attacked administrative building, Shahidullah Arts Building, Senate Building and VC’s home cutting off phone connection. Students blocked Dhaka-Rajshahi highway and chanted slogans condemning VC, Fakhruddin Ahmed & Mainul Hossein.
Violence spreads to Titumir College.
Army completes withdrawal from DU.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:27 am
its no longer a rumor: a rickshaw puller killed and about 50 people comprising students, passers-by and journalists injured in rajshahi.hundreds have been injured in dhaka and other parts of the country
but one thing i found interesting, the mob has attacked the square group’s offices in several parts of dhaka. and everywhere the students are joined in by hawkers, shop-keepers and the public. it is no longer a students or public academic institutions’ affair, but is gaining momentum and spreading all over the country.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:19 am
curfew starts from 8pm in the 6 regions and continues till onirdishto kal. D.R.A doesn’t stand for Dhanmondi Residential Area anymore, but Dhanmondi Rano Angon.all the public universities have been closed sine die and students have been asked to vacate the halls befor the curfew starts.atleast stamford students’(a private university )protested alongside the public ones. that gives some hope, alteast the private institutes’ students are not yet completely insensitive.
is this what we were waiting for? possibly not.
csb news is reporting this is a ploy by the political parties where the students and university teachers have used as weapons.
Wonder if the 5-point demand have genuinely been put forward by the students/teachers or are serving some others qurters interest. because, the students should have been happy they could study peacefully the last few months, without any strike or postponment of exams(!)but with teachers/student politics suggested to be banned, is this really what the general students and the public want? One of the demand is to withdraw the emergency situation. Whom will it benefit? But one reality is, there should have been protests. Protest of the army interference in the economy, judiciary and the state of running the country. Someone commented a few days back “it is better to be run by the UN than be run by half-educated urdi-walas”
Definitely it was an alarming situation with the army chief holding a meeting with all the private banks’ chairpersons and suggesting remedies(?)on the country’s economy. but is this a sign they are at the point of no return and will leave no leaf unturned and hold on to their position? Some ronokhetro areas were suggested to have inadequate number of police. Why is that?
i am not a political analyst, but these have been bothering me as a citizen of this country. can anyone throw some light please?
July 8th, 2008 at 11:16 am
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