Wed 25 Apr 2007
[republished from archive ]
Recently a reader lamented about Scholastica principal Yasmin Murshid’s role in creating the top English medium school for the elites and lambasted her for not doing much for the shattered education system in Bangladesh. This is a dangerous track he was heading to. I wouldn’t blame the entrepreneurs for their successes in a free market. It’s self righteous to say that they are evil simply because our education system is in shambles and they didn’t do anything for the industry. Even providing good education for one single student is a contribution of hers in the society. So there is nothing to criticize about why she didn’t do more. Can we say that I hate Doctor Yunus because he could have done more to stop this political madness in our country, but he didn’t? May be we can have our abhiman about him, but certainly it is not up to a few individuals to fix the malaise of the society.
However, what the reader expressed in his comment is really the abhiman against the privileged few in our country. To their credit every basic services in our country now has become class based. For example, look at our education system — only the rich can afford good schools and private or foreign universities, the education in which leads to guaranteed highly paid jobs. Whereas a certain Abdul Karim from Kaliganj can never even dream of getting that dream job in Standard Chartered Bank with his broken English that he learnt at Kaliganj Shorkari High School. So what does he do to break the shackle of unemployment? He sells the his vita mati for a lakh to two to make his way to Malaysia to do slave labour, change his fortune and break the invisible glass ceiling — only to be cheated by the Adam Bapari and return penniless. If he is lucky to return alive, then the only remaining options require him to choose between becoming a professional mastan or a bomber for the cause of Allah. You might say that such class struggle is there in every country. But what is different in Bangladesh is that more and more every passing year the gap between what’s offered for the rich and what’s offered for the middle class is becoming wider – and let’s not even talk about the poor.
When Piya described the medical system in BD at the time she went to look for her father, it described a health care system which doesn’t even pass the very basic standard. What’s scary is that if this is the state in our capital city, then imagine what is happening in the rest of the country. Well, guess what? That’s the kind of system or worse, 99% of our population are forced to use.
Now here is the million dollar question — why is nothing being done about it?
Simply put, it’s because our policy makers, our industrialists, the rich and the beautiful in our society don’t have to deal with this joke of a system. They either go abroad or they go to Apollo Hospital for their physical check ups. The all encompassing bubble of Gulshan, Banani, Baridhara enables them to completely ignore the system (whether its education, medical or transportation) that the 99% of our population has to use day in and day out. As a result, they never feel the need to change anything about it.
I will give you a small example of one such bubble boy. The head of BKMEA, a hotshot arrogant garments owner, Fazlul Huq, in a recent meeting on compliance with his garment clients was making fun of how the hotel he was staying in London had such small rooms that Mr. Blair should be ashamed of it. Then he went on to brag about how great the hotels are in Dhaka. While this business leader brags about Bashundhara city mall in Dhaka, he doesn’t realise that 99% the population can’t afford to touch anything in there. He takes pride in the superficial surroundings of Dhaka because the world of this other 99% is completely unknown to him. In his distorted reality from inside the green zone, he sees Dhaka as a place where children get top notch education in the international schools and where top class medical services are available in Apollo Hospital and where the best restaurants with their ever elongating buffet lines are the pride of the city. If you talk about the rest of the 99% who have no access to these things, you are not helping in “image building” of our country. I happened to be present in that meeting to present the side of the garment workers and he was furious at me for this betrayal and “image termination” of Bangladesh. Of course, from London, where he was explaining to the Bideshi client that £8 is actually a lot of money in Bangladeshi taka, soon after he flew back to his zone and headed to the negotiation table to resist the “unjust” demand of raising the monthly minimum wage from £8 to £24 (pays for 5 scoops of ice cream at MoveNPick for his kid).
Now let’s move the focus from this bubble boy to the rest of the populace of the heavily fortified green zone of Dhaka. Yes I am talking about the crowd in Gulshan and Baridhara and my abhiman (not accusation) about them. How socially aware are they? How socially responsible are they? Do they care about what’s happening outside the green zone? Do they think they have any social responsibility? Do they realise how much impact they can have in the country if they come forward and start tackling on the real issues from their position of privilege. Sameen, a fellow DP colleague from Toronto and I, often lament that how come we see so many rich people but so few donors in social causes in Bangladesh. Please disregard donating to your “Desher Bari” or donating for the local mosque or Zakat or the occasional Rotary or Lions club work. I am talking about seriously working and helping the social headline causes in Bangladesh that helps the other 99%. Why don’t we see rich people in Dhaka coming out in droves to help pay for education for Madhabi, the tortured housemaid, who was headline news a few weeks ago? Why don’t we see celebrities come out and talk about how ridiculous the wage of the garments workers are? Why don’t we see them donating money to rebuild villages in an Annadaprasad or pay for the entire medical bill of a journalist Tipu Sultan or a Mithu? Why don’t I hear about a rich guy donating for an income generating activity for the affected family in Kansat? Of course, I am generalizing. But stereotyping happens for a reason.
While Bill Gates, Warren Buffet in the rest of the world are opening up their wallets giving billions in philanthropy, I can’t name a single rich person in Bangladesh whom I can proudly say has become the number one philanthropist in the country. However, I do hear stories about them. I do know that they can shed 1000 taka (equal to one month salary of a garments worker) for a couple of scoops of ice-cream. I do know they don’t mind paying 300% tax to drive their Hummer Jeep in the dodgy streets of Dhaka. Then what am I missing? Are we Bangladeshis in general just so small hearted, that we can’t think beyond our own material benefit?
Not true. We did fundraising for Drishtipat abroad for 5 years. I can take tell countless stories of Bangladeshis going beyond their means to donate. One student paid $10 every month for 6 months saving from his McDonald job for the women of 71; one cab driver paid his entire week’s income for Tipu Sultan with a note saying “beshi dite parlam na”; one couple literally emptyed their wallets for the hindu victims of Annada Prasad. So what am I missing?
Can anyone give me the answer? Can anyone tell me why the privileged few in Bangladesh are so reluctant to think beyond themselves? Why they never think of “the others” — the 99%? This is my abhiman — not accusation. I know there are exceptions. There are some angels in the Green zone as well. Let’s hear more about their inspirational stories and multiply their numbers.
November 1st, 2006 at 4:25 pm
Bravo! Tell it like it is.
But I’m afraid the answer to your last question as to why there is a culture of self-preservation (every man for himself) in BD is because thats what happens when a culture of kleptomania is used to run the country.
November 1st, 2006 at 4:56 pm
Kudos for finally bringing our focus back to class privilege, the poison coursing through every vein on Nothun Bangla.
Here is a related piece from DAILY STAR:
In The Darkness of the Shine
The BMW SUV makes no jerks even on the potholed Dhaka streets. The silence of the interior, the cool of the air-conditioner and the richness of the woofers streaming Sagar Sen singing Tagore songs drape us with a feeling of assurance. The dashboard panel shows a fascinating array of instruments–a large LCD screen constantly shows the mileage and a professional navigation system shows maps of cities. At Tejgaon, the roads are cluttered with walking women figures, returning home after their shifts at garment factories. The man behind the steering wheel himself owns several garment factories in Dhaka City. He talks of his next venture in a composite textile mill.
Rest @
http://www.thedailystar.net/2006/02/19/d6021901011.htm
November 1st, 2006 at 5:04 pm
This is well written for the picture of Bangladesh. You have touch every angles of the society. To answer your questions, I think that we as Bangladeshi, I mean not everybody but most of us are self centric human being.
I also believe that we as Bangladeshi do not copy good things from other countries like USA, UK, EU, Canada or Australia. If some one is rich in Bangladesh, he or she wants to buy BMW or other expensive cars, world class cosmetics, etc. Those rich people never learnt that rich people in those countries donate most of their wealth to charity or some organizations, maybe few are different.
My point is that top 1% of the rich people in Bangladesh can reduce poverty by 25% atleast by donating their wealth. This is not happening since most of them are not educated or not learning from others like Bill Gate or w. Buffet.
I also believe that most expatriates are trying hard to helps others through family or relatives in Bangladesh. But most of the big fish (rich) are in Bangladesh and they can do better job to change Bangladesh by donating and proper investmenting their wealth where employment can be created.
Now other big issues are political instability, uneduacted, arrogant, or currupt Government officials including MPs.
We as non-Bangladeshi professionals need to find a way to develop the strategies for the better Bangladesh. I have initiated fews projects for Bangladesh, one of them is “Building Technology Academy in Bangladesh (TITA)” to create skilled workforce in Bangladesh to get greater export market in the world. (www.changebangladesh.com/Blog/TITA). Anyway my point is that we have to try new strategies as much as possible in different angles. Finally, there might be light at the end of the tunnel.
Best wishes,
M. Chowdhury, USA
http://www.amreteckpharma.com
November 1st, 2006 at 5:16 pm
Chowdhury’s essentialist moan of “we as Bangladeshis” suffers from lack of perspective. Class privilege is a destructive force that is not unique to Bangladesh, Bengalis or any particular “national character.” Rather it has become the companion of free market capitalism with no gov’t intervention (look @ Swedish model for examples of gov’t intervention). The idea of a DNA based “character” is thoroughly discredited as racist ideas of colonial anthropologists. I won’t bore you with examples from Nigeria, Indonesia, or of course the runaway corruption of Bechtel/Enron (USA), et al. Look for structural solutions not excuses. Wailing “Bangali tar shobhab kharap” is actually an invitation to do nothing.
M Chowdhury wrote: I also believe that we as Bangladeshi do not copy good things
November 1st, 2006 at 6:01 pm
You spoke from my heart Asif. I was thinking about this lately, but beshi hoichoi kori nai as I thought most around me here in DP blog belong to the bubble boy class.
Recently I proposed a caretaker government with ten advisors who will really represent Bangladesh, not 10 gulshanite, DOHSite elites, what we always get in cycles.
Anyway, have you noticed the mad rush that is going on in Bangladesh to metriculate to the elite class?
From Khilkhet to Khepupara, English medium schools have been mushrooming leading to a scholasticaisation of Bangladesh. And then comes an over-crowded green zone with apartments diluting the palacial Gulshan, Banani.
And talking about the culture of giving!
1. Go back to your electoral constituency and build a mosque or mostly a school in your mother’s name.
2. Slaughter a cow and feed the villagers one day a year.
I graduated from a Govt boys high school in Dhaka. Annual govt budget for me was 17 Taka.
My friend grduated from a cadet College. Annual Govt Budget for him was 13,000 Tk
Am I supposed to contribute 800 fold less then by CC friend? Who should I go and complain to?
November 1st, 2006 at 6:33 pm
Great topic to think on. Asif, I understand your “Oviman”. However I have given some though on this and here is my explanation.
Prof Abdullah Abu Sayeed says the first generation rich people (who became rich either in lawful and unlawful ways) usually collect things. It is their children (second generation) usually starts giving (only if they can keep the wealth). If you look at the 19th century Jamindar Sons you will see this trend.
When we come outside the country we get better chance to think outside the box hence usually people living abroad give more then those living inside. Also usually we earn more when in foreign country so we can afford to give more. We see lots of giving campaign around us that also motivates us to give.
Another thing I nooticed that in BD all the non-profit orgs (NGOs) mostly get foreign aid as opposed to the non-profit orgs in the US where they have lots of effort to get the local people involved. If I know that some org can continue doing their good work w/o me as they get funding from big donor agencies why I would be motivated to donate money there.
I say there could be some fundraising programs attracting possible donors to make you feel that your hard earned money actually can make a difference.
Yes there is lack of compassions for the have-nots, but from my limited experience in fundraising efforts I would say if I go ask people I know and explain them how their 100 Tk will make a positive differnce then sure people will come forward and give.
If you ask me when you will see people like Bill Gates, I have to say we have to wait some more years till we see the “second generation” in business.
Recent days I was thinking it might be a good idea to start some program in BD showcasing what a regular person can do for the society/country, motivating youngstars to go good deeds. When I was reading that Dr Yunus participated in boy scout program (where the motto is to help people) while in high school I realised that most of the young people today don’t get exposure to those kind of things anymore.
-Sharmin
November 1st, 2006 at 6:54 pm
This is a hell of a good post, but I don’t know whether we are going to be able to find an answer to Asif’s essential question - WHY DON’T THEY CARE?
Still, it’s worth a try. Much of this is speculation and observation so don’t bite my head off.
1) The origins of the ruling class:
The zamindars of old gained their fortune - and their posh manners, hunting rifles and palatial mansions - by trampling on the backs of the poor farmers. Similarly, I think the majority of today’s rich people (Gulshan Banani elite - businessmen, politicians, etc) have gained their fortunes by either exploiting the workers who work for them, or by robbing people blind, or by stealing state funds or by stealing bank loans. I would like to know if there are too many people in G-B who can actually trace their fortunes to decent honest hard work. I would like to be proven wrong.
2) The attitude of the elite
Actually, forget the attitude of the elite. Even the middle class doesn’t give a shit about the poor. Think of this. The pervasive attitude of the upper and middle classes towards the poorer people is one of immeasurable superiority and contempt. I cannot think of a single family in the top 20% who actually think of their fellow 80% as equal human beings in any way. It simply does not enter their minds that such a thing is possible or true.
This contempt is what I meant by the casual barbarity of our lives - the zamindar turning his farmers into paupers, the bhodrolok slapping a rickshawallah thinking it’s normal, young people calling a servant 10 yrs older as “tui” or “tumi” denying a human being the basic respect due to him, a housewife verbally and physically abusing a defenceless child, in extremis throwing her off a balcony. There is a Kalpana Mazumdar inside all of these people, held back only by thin bonds of law and lok-lojja.
Eshob attitude kemne change hobey, I don’t know. I suspect it is common in all countries characterized by such vast economic gaps. Then again, it is likely that such vast material gaps do not arise in the FIRST place unless society itself is riven in and out with unjust attitudes. What’s the difference between the Russian serf in 1900 or the black slave in Virginia in 1850 or the Dhaka rickshawallah in 2000? Khub beshi na, I think.
As for English medium’er attitude, ki ar bolbo. Having benefitted from my own Eng-med background in Dhaka, I can tell this much: one of the shortest routes to impress in Dhaka is to show off your English, it will open doors of opportunity and friendship that remain closed otherwise. This is especially true of the G-B set. It immediately puts others less skilled on a sort of defensive posture. Finally, in my own experience, there were dozens of other people, more hardworking and more talented, who did not gain the same opportunities simply because they were not fluent in the language. The greatest benefit that any education minister in Bangladesh could do - and this is true from a global economic integration perspective as well - is to make English a common skill for the common people. This would be one huge blow against the puerile language-based elitism that is now so prevalent.
November 1st, 2006 at 9:37 pm
Asif bhai, your use of “abhiman” made me think of “abhimanyu” (self-respect, which is lacking in so many people). Your citing of Gates made me smile because in a roundabout way he is an answer to the question, “why don’t they care?”. People don’t care because they are busy trying to emulate Mr Gates’ affluence (oh sure, Mr Gates can publicise his philanthropy now, he can afford to do it, and we know what the obvious reasons for him publicising it now).
On one hand we all want to take care of pelf and self, and on the other we all want to be equal, etc. I sense an inconsistency here.
I recall emailing you about the little girl Madhabi. I suggested that Madhabi ought to be adopted as the “daughter of drishtipat”. I didn’t get a response.
Naeem bhai, there’s nothing wrong whatsoever with class privilege. It has to do with what one does with one’s privileged position.
Rumi bhai, please be aware that some “bubble boys” have burst out of the bubble to experience B’deshi villages and have helped out as doctor’s and teacher’s assistant.
Zub
It’s true that zemindars had a lot of land but not all zemindars possessed rifles or palatial mansions. Some might have had an old fashioned vinyl player.
November 1st, 2006 at 10:26 pm
Excellent thought-provoking post, Asif Am I allowed to say this even though I live in Gulshan? (I even have ice cream at Movenpicks on occasions, though never, I’m pleased to report, more than two scoops).
I agree absolutely that we are living in a two-track system here, with the rich living a life on a different planet from the poor. Naeem’s excerpt from the DS captures so much about the way the plutocrats/kleptocrats and the business elite insulate themselves from the masses here. The sentence “the BMW SUV makes no jerks even on the potholed Dhaka streets” made me laugh though, as most of the BMWs are driven by jerks.
I think Zub puts his finger on the cause by referring to the very strictly stratified society here (though not only here of course). Being a foreigner in BD allows me to interact more easily with people from different strata - taking tea in the home of my rickshaw driver, having a hearty lunch with the family of my first maid then falling asleep on the only bed in their metal shack for example, and this albeit limited experience of humanity and generosity makes me incredulous when I hear bhodroloks talking about the poor as if they were automata, or worse, animals. There is an astonishing communication gap between the classes. How to bridge that?
On the language point I agree that you could enhance the chances of the majority by giving them access to english, but this would not change the perspective of the rich. I suspect if we made English more widely available, the elite would suddenly declare Esperanto the language to know. They’ll always find a way to preserve the difference.
What really amazes me these days is to see the kids of the elite coming into one of these ice-cream/coffee places. They speak amongst themselves in Bangla but then turn to the waiter and address him in English. Simply to reinforce their superiority. English is not only a medium of communication, here it is clearly used as a weapon too. And these kids are 15/16 - already with ingrained attitudes.
So does anyone have ideas on how to recast these attitudes? Bit like turning an oil tanker round…
Finally, back to the post itself - this is the kind of thinking at which DP seems to excel. I too welcome a return to issues of class and social rights.
November 1st, 2006 at 10:49 pm
Hmm.. an interesting and thought provoking topic for deliberation in this blog. Well done, Asif. Here is the link to an article that I wrote for the Daily Star in the late Nineties addressing some of the issues that you raise.
http://www.thedailystar.net/dailystarnews/200212/13/n2121309.htm#BODY1
Several points:
(1) It is unreasonable to compare Dr. Yunus with Yasmin Murshed. Doing so (in my humble opinion and with all due respect to you and your readers) will be like comparing Sir Rabindranath Tagore with Professor Kabir Chowdhury. They are in a different league from one another.
(2) Also, comparing the hotel rooms in Great Britain with the Bashundhara Shopping Mall or for that matter any similar item is a bit unfair. I would rather compare the hotel rooms in London with hotel rooms in New York, Paris, Washington DC and other similar places. However, once again with all due respect to you and your readers,I think our country and our people still give too much importance to our colonial legacy and they overestimate Great Britain and do not realize that since loosing their empire and through perpetual economic decline post World War II, Great Britain is not so Great and it is nothing more than a group of small islands competing with formidably bigger sources of economic power both on the continent and elsewhere. Now, how Fazlul Haque’s 99 percent lives in Dhaka is a different issue altogether. It has nothing to do with the economy of Great Britain. In other words, it is not that the hotel rooms in London are smaller because the British people cannot afford them and because UK is a Welfare state but because of reasons of demand and supply, scale and scope of the market etc… Also, there are differences in purchasing power that dictates who gets to buy hotel rooms where. As a matter of fact, rich Britons occupy more hotel rooms in Florida, Paris and Madrid than they do in London, Birmingham and Manchester. And there are more well-to-do Sylhetis demanding hotel rooms in London than demanding shopping and lodging fascilities in Dhaka. In a world where capital is mobile, you cannot blame the citizen of any country for the logistics available in that country. People go where their money takes them.
That brings me back to Bangladesh. There is an academic discipline known as “Development Economics” that deals specifically with the issues that you are dealing with. Therefore it will be inappropriate for me to address those issues here non-technically without any emprical evidence.
However, just for the sake of your blog and your readers, in general, I would say, there are 5 things that is causing the problems of inequality in sustaining underdevelopment.
These are:
(1) Missing Information: Information is costly and people do not have access to them. Only the rich do.
(2)Missing Credit Market: Abdul of Naogaon cannot take a loan from Standard Chartered Bank to send his son to North South University but the Standard Chartered Bank is loaning away crores of Taka to the Beximcos, Concords and Transcoms to do whatever they venture, sometimes and more than often in failed or vested ventures. The following link serves as an example:
http://www.thedailystar.net/2006/10/04/d6100401011.htm
(3)Missing Property Rights: Property Rights are costly to gain and to enforce. The farmers of Phulbaria do not have the same property rights as the owners of mansions in Gulshan, Banani, Baridhara, who can hire lawyers to enforce their property rights against land grabbers. But the poor and hapless BD peasant cannot. We have no system of legal aid in place for them.
(4)Missing Legal System: There is no legal system in our country to levy charges against individual or corporations for punitive damages. Remember the Polar Ice cream that we all used to love in our school days in Dhaka? It came to Bangladesh after the Chernobyl disaster of the 1980s when they exported lots of very cheap and contaminated milk to countries like ours that we happily digested and made our bussiness community rich. We have no legal system to bring the Concords into accountability for polluting the Gulshan lake by occupying parts of it to build concrete slums sold at millions to rich people.
Here is the link:
http://www.thedailystar.net/magazine/2006/07/04/cover.htm
(5) Missing Political Awareness: We all know what that is and I will not elaborate on it.
I hope this helps your readers to understand the issues better. These may be Abhiman for a select few living in mansions but these are real issues on which the lives of many actually depend in our beloved country.
Best,
~ Irad.
http://home.att.net/~csiddiky/
http://www.thedailystar.net/dailystarnews/200212/13/n2121309.htm#BODY1
November 1st, 2006 at 11:26 pm
Here’s an example of sustainable charity work from the green zone. It involves an NGO called Sajida Foundation (SAJIDA) and Renata Limited — a pharmaceutical company listed on the Dhaka Stock Exchange.
Even in the early 1990s, SAJIDA was a tiny organisation. It ran a garage school with 12 students in Bailey Road, Dhaka. Then in 1993, through an exceptionally generous financial arrangement, the Foundation acquired 51% of Renata Limited (The story is too long to narrate here).
Using dividend income from the acquisition, SAJIDA began expanding its programmes in micro-credit, health, and education.
To give an idea of the expansion of charity: In the mid-90s, the total annual budget of SAJIDA was Taka 500,000. Today, it is Taka 1.25 billion, with virtually no donor support. This growth was possible because in the early days the dividend income from Renata had provided a strong financial backbone to SAJIDA. Today dividends are a small contributor to the overall source of funds.
For more detail (including financials), the websites of the two organisations are
http://www.sajidafoundation.com
http://www.renata-ltd.com
November 2nd, 2006 at 12:25 am
The touch of abhiman is so accutely expressed! Hold it within you, it will act like a power.
November 2nd, 2006 at 3:31 am
hey asif!!! its nice to read your writing. i wish i had more time,so i cld read more of your stuff.
i just wanted to add my two cents real quick. i wanted to adress the issue u raise as to why rich bangladeshis are not more giving compared to their western counterparts. i think it comes frm deep insecurities. we are so poor as a nation. we see so much poverty all around us. we have no faith in the govt. system or in each other. we also dont have any social support system like social security , welfare…evryone just has to fend for themselves….so we have just learned to hoard money as our future seems so volotile(splng?). So the rich are just hoarding money so they can secure their future and their childrens. i think when u’re surrounded by so much instability its hard to see the larger picture…the welfare of mankind. i think its instinctual to be self centric (for the average person) i dont want to seem like i’m defending them. but we are such a young nation. our parents generation hasnt experienced such wealth that is around us now… and we are the product of them, who are finally taking notice but ingrained not to act. i think its just a matter of time.
u are comparing us with the american and the english…but look at thier history..they’ve had hundreds of years of prosperity.they’ve been through their industrial revolution…and we need to go through ours.
Ofcourse we have to be more socially aware and instill this consciusness into our kids… i have faith that when sharad and ariana( my twins) will be millionairs they will be more giving. but before they can do that they have to get that sense of security. hopefully,we and bangladesh can give them that.
p.s its 3:00 am… and my brain is numb…hopefully i make sense to u all.
November 2nd, 2006 at 4:57 am
I also suspect that as Bangladesh becomes less and less governable in future (population, ecology, economy etc etc, a tale told in previous posts), these elites will retreat deeper into their shells, create bigger and more shiny barriers, raise the walls of Castle Gulshan-Banani higher and higher. But I also suspect this will not be enough, just as it wasn’t enough to prevent earlier eruptions of mass violence in other countries.
But then I have a naturally apocalyptic bent of mind
November 2nd, 2006 at 5:50 am
It may be a daft observation, but many countries have devised a system which at least helps in redistributing some of this wealth from the castle-dwellers to the serfs outside. And lo, they called it ‘taxation’. I have an inkling it’s not quite as smooth as that here, as an ex-colleague of mine in BD claims she had to bribe the official to actually pay her tax bill recently.
By the way, I enjoyed the nuance Rima brought to the debate. It’s only natural for people to look after their own. But do we really have to wait until we are millionaires before we consider giving? If you take the example of refugee movements, the evidence shows invariably that it is the poorest countries who are the most generous, and the US and UK come off very badly. Being rich doesn’t make you generous. Being generous does make you rich.
November 2nd, 2006 at 6:44 am
It’s very easy to make comments about us selfish, uncaring and greedy Bangalis sitting thousands of miles away from the country which all of you have abandoned because it is not comfortable enough for you. Don’t forget that the only reason you people turned your back on this country is because no job in this country would pay 10% of what you get where you are right now. And I agree with Sharmin on one thing. If there were proper, uncorrupt charities who carried out fund raising activities people would come out and contribute.
Oh come on Andrew, teenagers are the same all over the world. Let them go through puberty. They have a long way to go to build up their principles.
November 2nd, 2006 at 6:50 am
I am the archetypal “bubble boy”. Scholastica education; fancy SUV; influential parents; weekend parties; Bangkok holidays; bagaan bari; latest gadget; - the works!
I will never apologies for my wealth. Matter of fact being one of the more successful advertising professional, I promote consumerism. I believe in the creature comforts that I’ve grown accustomed to and will shout out from any pulpit “money is great!” I love the scent of that piece of paper. I am mesmerised by its powers.
And does that make me a bad, indecent human being? In one word No! Of course if I’ve worked hard and honestly I deserve my just spoils.
Where things start to unravel is in the work “hard” and “honestly” bit. I have, especially over the last few years, have noticed a tendency for people of wanting to become mind bogglingly rich overnight. And they will not think twice before making a pact with the devil for this to happen. Since beginning of wealth there must have been people who subscribed to this philosophy, but the scale of it currently is unprecedented. There are too many examples of unscrupulous people who we meet everyday, those who we eat with, or party with, those who have ill-gotten gains and everyone knows it. And no one deplores them, or tries to bring them to justice. No one says “look I know the justice system is in shambles, and this crook will go unpunished, BUT I will not seat at the same table with him”. Unfortunately neither do I! If we do not socially criminalise these oligarchs, we encourage others to join the field. And soon we will try and push back an ocean.
Another mistake my kind make is to draw a line in their heads between “us and them”. The tendency is to be wealth without looking at the poverty gap that is being created. Is it not at the best interest of us (the rich) to remedy this? You know why Henry Ford was a rich man? Not because he made great cars. It’s because he made cheaper cars and then gave his workers the wage to afford to buy them. We need to give our workers, our colleagues a decent wage, a remuneration with which they can afford not only the basic necessities of life, but also some of its luxuries. That way we create not only honest productive workers but also a vibrant middle class who will in turn make us richer. Otherwise let’s pray the blade of the guillotine is sharp enough not to hurt us when it comes crashing down on our necks.
I know there will be vocal rebuttal against my Reganomics era “trickle-down” theory. Before the barrage starts let me say that we need to tweak it first. It has to become “pour-down” theory and secondly we need to allow for a social net. [I am not going to get into elaborating my macro-economic theory in this post]
Philanthropy is good. But not giving ghush is better. And paying our taxes is the best. So an appeal from the boy in the bubble to all my clansmen, “Work honestly, work hard. Pay your taxes and not ghush. Don’t be ashamed about your Lexus; be ashamed of any ill gotten wealth. Don’t think of your chauffer as another of your object, but as a person who if treated well, given better wages will drive you to further prosperity.”
Now ain’t that a thought!
November 2nd, 2006 at 6:56 am
Liked your post Asif - these distinctions of class are unfortunately the legacies of the caste system and of colonialism’s babudom culture.. unfortunately present all over South Asia.
What has to be worked on is changing the elite classes’ attitude not only by driving out corruption from the legal system but also by working at the school level bringing about awareness amongst elite English medium school children.
The person who sentitised me to rural and impoverished peoples’ concerns (albeit those of West Bengal but completely comparable to the Bangladeshi situation) was our school principal Sr Cyril. She decided that all the students attending her Loreto Sealdah (LS) school would have to go to villages once a month. She picked a group of villages in Poilan (about 2 hours from Kolkata by bus) and decided that from class 5 onwards all her school students were to go there once a month. We were divided into 4 groups, group 1 going there in week 1 and passing down what they had taught to group 2 who went there in week 2, etc. It was a very well organise system where LS school teachers were involved and had to once a week sit with their students and make charts and organise the classes their students would be teaching the village children. Class 5 students taught the KGs, class 6 students the class 1s, etc. Once a year, we organised a big science exhibition with the different pupils of all the village schools, and once the exhibition was up their teachers, parents and family were welcome to visit.
Going to the village to teach was mandatory and Sr Cyril used to make parents sign forms before accepting their children into her school when they came for admissions. Also, she started taking 50% students who couldn’t affort to pay LS fees. And, with the elite 50% who wanted to get admitted she refused to put 4 year old through admission tests and organised a lottery so that who she chose was not in her hands.
We, her students, became aware of injustices and started pushing her to do more. When the media started visiting our school and she told them to interview us!! Her aim was to make us responsible citizens and many of us have kept the fire she ignited and many of my schoolmates have gone into jobs to do with social service.
We students really took things over. Our school was next to Sealdah station and when we got to know that many children who had run away from their homes in villages to work in Kolkata were being raped and beaten up each night by the police, medic school students, random bhadroloks.. we spoke about it and she decided to open the school gates for them at night so that they could sleep in the classrooms sheltered from the goondas. She gave strict instructions to the darwans garding our school gates - they were not to allow any males above the age of 15 and females above the age of 18.
After that, she opened what was called the ‘Rainbow project’ where once a week students were made to teach the children who lived on the pavements next to the school and who worked as domestic help. Each ‘pavement-dwelling’ child had a file in their name so that even if they came after a break of a few days the LS student in charge could pick up from there. We used to do this after school hours but now it has been extended to school-time hours. They children could just pop in while their boses were taking a nap in the afternoon.
That woman really changed the way a lot of us saw these ‘pavement-dwelling’ and rural children and a lot of us have kept this sensitivity she engendered amongst us.
Of course many parents started complaining saying the school was going to the dogs and lamenting the fact that school results were going down because she was bringing in ‘all types’. When I left LS to go to Loreto House for my Higher Secondary a nun on enquiring where I had studied before remarked ‘oh, that circus!’.
But I am so proud of that ‘circus’ of a school I went to - Sr Cyril’s programmes have now been adopted in many of the elite schools of Kolkata and the government has started working very closely with her.
Sr Cyril - zindabad! We need people like her!!
Sorry this has gone on so long but I really admire that woman for what she, and her ex-students and dedicated group of teachers taught me and my friends..
manush manusher jonno, jibon jiboner jonno, ektu shohanubhuti ki, manush pete pare na? o bondhu..
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:23 am
Kaiser Bhai’s Sajida Foundation is an excellent example by which some wealth redistribution can happen.
Instead of fighting minimum wage, RMG owners should give their workers profit share!
Recently I visited Jamshedpur in India where I witnessed first hand the labour relation work done by Tata Steel. Most facinating thing that I found was that the last strike in any of their operation was 75 years ago. When speaking to the Worker’s Union leader, I figured out a that root to the company’s peace and prosperity lay in sharing of wealth and information. Total transperancy. I was facinated to know that the company’s grievance committee was head by the Managing Director one year and the Worker’s Union chief the other!
Disclaimer: Tata is a client of mine
Corporate Bangladesh (and its owners) need to realise that it is in our own best interest to ensure an adequate and equitable wages for all our employee. Only then will the company prosper. The nation prosper.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:31 am
actually not just ’shohanobhuti’ - but it is a start.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:59 am
All,
Some great responses. Will get back to these in a bit.
But let’s avoid rich vs poor and expatriates vs Resident Bangladeshis debate.
We are trying to get examples like the one Kaiser provided of Sajidafoundation, a beautiful way for the rich to reach out. We are trying to explore what’s preventing more people to come out with initiatives like that. We are not criticizing the rich for their hard earned wealth. But we are trying to explore the role of the privileged class to reach out and show more social responsibility. Seems like we already have some answers pointing to that and Annu’s post gives a perfect way to show how to bring about this empathy among the children when they grow up. Annu, thanks so much sharing that lovely story. It gives us a way out and I certainly will follow that in raising my children.
Is empathy something that you are born with or is it something that can be nurtured? From Annu’s example, it seems like its the 2nd one. So we have hope. Kaiser did not have to do Sajida Foundation. He could have enjoyed his wealth and be happy. But what made him start it? It is the empathy and the urge to do something about the poverty that is surrounding you. That feeling of empathy and proactiveness is something that we are trying to discover among others in the green zone. Are the parents teaching their children to empathize or are they like as described by Zub on his analysis of the cause — the closet Kalpona Majumdars or a less harsher version of that.
Farhan, you are absolutely right. You should be proud of your achievements and wealth — they are generating employments. What I am trying to get to is that whether people like you feel the need to do something beyond to impact the huge amount of people who are treated as 3rd class citizens in the country. To do something big with a lot of impact — it can be for a social cause or anything that impacts a lot of people outside your relatives and friends.
Rima/Sharmin, you have done a good explanation of things. That certainly does explain of a lot of the cases. But deep down you will have to agree to what Zub said. A lot of our actions are based on deeply planted notions on how we just look at poor people in general. But sharmin, you are certainly right that people respond when you take it to them.
Also, guys, I am actively managing this thread and since this is such a important thread, I will only post comments which add value to the discussion.
November 2nd, 2006 at 12:09 pm
Thank you, Asif and Farhan for your very kind comments about Sajida Foundation. I have a lot of admiration for what DP is trying to achieve, and getting an endorsement from the key members means a lot to me.
Just one point of correction: I did not start Sajida Foundation, my father did. Sajida is my mother’s name, and the Foundation was my father’s gift to her on their 25th wedding anniversary. Also, it is my sister who developed SAJIDA to its present level. My role is to run Renata and maximise shareholder wealth for SAJIDA (and of course for the other shareholders who own 49%).
The profit sharing idea raised by Farhan (Post No.19) is in fact codified as law. According, to the Workers Profit Participation Act (WPPF) of 1968 a company must set aside 5% of its operating profits for workers. And the definition of worker in this case is, “an employee of the company whose basic monthly wages do not exceed Taka 9,000 per month.” This law applies to both public and private limited companies once they employ more than X workers (I can’t recall what X is at the moment).
As it should become immediately obvious, WPPF in effect transfers 5% ownership of the company to workers. (It is actually more than 5%, because WPPF applies to income before tax). It’s an excellent law.
Strangely though, this profit-sharing provision does not seem to be strictly applied. The WPPF line is conspicuously absent from many audited financial reports.
Thus strict enforcement of WPPF could be a good campaign for DP.
November 2nd, 2006 at 1:05 pm
hmm… mandated profit share! Well if we are to let the government into our pockets how about this idea that I’ve been thinking of for a while: corporate sponsorship of gram bangla!
The idea is simple. A corporate can “adopt” a village. Basically they pay a third party contractor (a NGO) to provide the basic amenities to our 68,000 villages. Sanitation, education, health, other needs to be provided for. Corporate will get a tax break for the amount they spent, which in turn will be verified by a panel of reputeable auditors.
Corporate does philanthropy. NGOs get funding and economies of scale to implement projects. And Village gets all the development it needs. Isn’t that win-win-win?
November 2nd, 2006 at 3:13 pm
The entire issue of rights and justice is so closely tied up with economic inequality in Bangladesh that I, for one, fail to see why this should NOT be a question of Rich vs Poor.
My question to NFC is: why should development be reduced to a matter of corporate charity? Aren’t these supposed to be rights - onno-bostro-bashosthan, health, education? It is the Duty of government, especially a democratic government, to serve the “demos”, the people. Eita odhikarer proshno, koruna’r na.
It is a matter of taxation, corruption, and efficiency. It is a matter of ensuring that every corporation in Motijheel and every borolok swanking around in Gulshan has paid his proper taxes. Every last paisa of it. Moreover, it is a matter of progressive taxation. It is a question of using those Lawful taxes to finance education and health, infrastructure and housing, everything that is needed to give the non-elite a chance in life.
It is a question of breaking the corruption in government, the fundamental purpose of which right now is to steal the money that was destined for the “demos”. Is anyone going to deny that in Bangladesh, the businessmen and the politicians, the money and the power, share a very incestuous relationship? They go to the same parties, they drink at the same watering holes, their kids study at the same schools, and in due course marry each other, produce kids, and perpetuate the beautiful cycle all over again.
But let them do that if they so wish, it’s their business. But at the same time - ensure full taxation, eliminate corruption, and then make sure that the funds are going in the right places. When you do that, you won’t need so many donors and you won’t need so many NGOs. Even today, clean, forceful and efficient government which not in the same bed as the business elite, such a government can do more for real development than any number of NGOs can ever manage.
But there again it comes down to politics and political leadership, the ultimate rock on which our ship always founders.
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Real change usually does not happen as a matter of charity either. The revolutionaries of the past understood this. They realized that Change would not come as a matter of patience, Change would not come if only you waited a little longer for the elite to have a change of heart, to grow some empathy.
No, Change usually came as a result of struggle. Whether it was the garments workers of Dhaka, or the liberation fighters of 1971, or the civil rights activists of the 1960s, or the suffragettes of the early 20th century: the lesson is the same: unless you make a nuisance of yourself, unless you make a pest of yourself, unless you kill a few and lose a few of your own, the Elite will not pay attention.
Asif, I understand your sentiment but Obhimaan doesn’t work, because you can grow old waiting for that kind of Change. I cannot explain why it won’t happen, but the Elite of any power system don’t suddenly wake up one day and start behaving in a way that they’ve never behaved in the past.
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November 2nd, 2006 at 3:30 pm
Mr. Kaiser Kabir,
I do appreciate that you are part of a organization like SAJIDA. We have lot to learn from your organization and how we can help Bangladesh in many ways including charity, education, social development, creating employment oportunities, and proper investments in Bangladesh.
I strongly believe that creating employment opportunities in Bangladesh is the key to reduce poverty. I am little bit involved with Bangladeshi pharmaceuticals industires and trying to develop this sector to the world class to capture greater medicine markets in the emerging world. I don’t know how much succesful I will be but atleast I can try.
Please keep up the good work.
Best wishes,
M. Chowdhury, USA
http://www.amreteckpharma.com
November 2nd, 2006 at 6:12 pm
Zub,
I completely agree with you about the fact that this is not a question of empathy/charity but one of rights - and this is why I added my rejoinder. I felt the lines were patronising..
The problem, however, is that in a situation where rights are guaranteed on paper but not respected in practice, what do we do?
I really think the root of the problem, in the case of South Asia’s elites, lies in deeply entrenched ideas of the assumed inequality of human beings. As you say, change can only come through struggle. I think bringing about a consciousness amongst South Asia’s middle classes and elite about the fundamental human rights of the nimnobargo is one of the biggest challenges one can face and is a kind of struggle. And forcing kids of elite schools to sit with geon and kajerloker children in the same classroom or going to villages and get their hands dirty is really an interesting way of approaching the problem. This is not so much about what the underprivileged children got out of Loreto Sealdah’s experiments but more about creating an awareness amongst the elite and middle classes about the fundamental injustices of our system.
Individual freedom implies moral concern, a sense of responsibility for the suffering of others. We can only do this and work on the legal and political structures of our countries after we are convinced that the ‘other’ is as legitimately entitled to a good life as I am. This, for me is where the struggle begins. Of course this does not exclude fighting other causes – such as denouncing the growing totalitarianism of the UK government. But how long shall we wait for our governments to wake up? We need to act, and act fast. And working on creating an awareness amongst the future leaders of our countries to the realities of the vast majority of the people of their country is a start. As Margaret Mead once said “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.”
November 2nd, 2006 at 10:21 pm
Zub: Of course it is the government’s responsibility! But is that currently being done? This is an initiative for corporate to voluntarily assist in local development. Freeing the limited government resources available for other development sectors. It has to be a private-public partnership. If we waited till the government got about to it we would have the world’s biggest cobweb! But look at areas where private sector (including NGOs) have been leading the charge success stories abound. Grameen Phone with increasing teledensity, Aarong with finding marketplace for rural artisans, Lifebuoy Friendship with health care – when ever private sector gets involved, the deliverables get identified and benchmarked. There is more accountability.
Someone correctly pointed out that as soon as a businessman makes his first “koti taka” he builds a mosjid, madrassa and school in the gram. When I first to looked into charity, I hit a bit of a roadblock. I wanted to put in a progressive school in my village but did not know how to go about it. I could fund a school, but who would give them cirriculam, who would recruit teachers, who would run and manage it? Being busy in my professional life I had no time myself. My “Adopt a Village” idea is my answer. I go to a panel of NGOs offering basic needs and choose one for my village. My fund helps run the operation.
As this thread is talking of charity, this was my answer. Don’t get me wrong. This is not the only solution, neither for the government nor the corporate. Bangladesh Inc needs to pay fair wages, provide for worker rights (leave, work hour, provident fund, health care, work safety, insurance, etc. etc.) This has to be a hygiene factor. And over this we need to be talking of profit share.
I know I keep coming back to Tata Steel. But it has such an impressive stand and record on CSR (corporate social responsibility). They have two Deputy Managing Directors. One looks after the operations and the other, their CSR commitments. That’s the level of commitment the company has. The town of Jamshedpur (which per capita income-wise is India’s wealthiest) is completely run by the company. Water works, electricity, hospitals, schools, roads, garbage collections and more.
November 3rd, 2006 at 5:24 am
An interesting thread, and one that I thought I’d comment on.
The one comment that stood out here was Andrew’s– his observation that there seems to be a barrier of communication between the higher and the lower classes struck me as too true.
I grew up outside of Bangladesh, but I was fortunate enough to have been immersed in the culture and the language of the country by my parents. Amazingly enough, even though I’d been raised in seven countries, when I came back to Bangladesh, I found myself thinking, “It’s good to be home.”
I entered the bubble that some of you mention in your replies– I went to Mastermind, and although I didn’t live in Gulshan, I found myself in that neighborhood frequently enough. From within this bubble, I immediately noticed Andrew’s communication gap, and being easily confused, I found myself wondering why I didn’t suffer from it. I had no problem whatsoever hanging out with the maid’s son, or talking to the driver about how he needed money to send his child to school. I listened, and I found myself understanding their problems and their points of view. My associates (I hesitate to call them friends) at school thought I was an idiot, and for a while, I was worried that they were right. A little bit of introspection, however, showed that I wasn’t doing anything wrong, and that they—not I– were the ones who were mistaken. I kept on listening, and I think I earned the driver’s eternal gratitude when I persuaded my father to pay his child’s school bills.
I found, basically, that it was easy to pop the bubble. All it takes is a willingness to sensitize oneself to the madness that makes up day to day life in Bangladesh. As a people, I get the feeling that we Bengalis are not very good at this; it may have something to do with the fact that we are constantly striving to shout the loudest in order to make sure we are the only ones who are heard. This in turn condemns us to be poor listeners.
Who is to blame for this? If the new generation of bubble-children is not listening properly, their parents are to blame—my parents, after all, were the ones who taught me to listen before speaking. But once the issue is resolved, and people start listening, they’ll start behaving in more charitably.
I’m sure that this change will start sooner or later: Bangladesh is a young country, and as a keen student of history, I’ve observed time and time again that vulgar displays of wealth (e.g. bubble-life in present day Bangladesh) always come before graceful philanthropy. It’s the wait that irks me, and I’m sure, most of the people on this blog.
Incidentally, I’m new here, and I like to contribute to the blog once in a while if at all possible. How would one go about doing that?
November 3rd, 2006 at 5:54 am
lazarus84,
Welcome aboard. Very beautiful observation and congratulation on being able to burst the bubble. :). If you want to post entry, to the blog, send it blog At Drishtipat dot org and our editors will scan it. Periodically, we invite writers from the commenters whose write ups are close to our ideals.
Zub/Annu,
While a struggle is needed to shake up the elites, I have to be a bit selfish because in Bangladeshi context, I am an elite as well. When the shake up happens, they will not distinguish between me and the bubble boy next door. That’s why its better to to change the attitude before its too late by listening and empathazing and being proactive in addressing. I am not only talking about just charity here. I am talking about business men doing more for their employees, elites treating their housemaids humanely, policy makers doing more for hospitals and health care, civil society producing more and more volunteers. These small changes will lead to much more understanding society who are willing to listen and work with each other.
I think that’s where your idea of a media campaign will be very useful. One Shabana Azmi has done tremendous work for the benefit of slum
dwellers and communal harmony in India. We can have small 1 minute media productions with a celebrity talking about these issues. Heck, we can get corporate money to sponsor these. Ultimately, we have to get the private enterprise on board. But that’s a separate thread.
Kaiser,
I wonder if WPPF is the solution to the garments wage issue. Anisul huq made a passionate appeal that they will go out of business with the wage increase. So then why not agree on sharing the profit. IF there is no profit, then they have nothing to lose and if there is profit, then everybody wins. Workers distrust of the owners should disipate with that agreement as well. I wonder if this was discussed. This is indeed a very good point that I would explore further. Are there lawyer’s among the readership here who can tell us more on this law and why is it not being addressed?
November 3rd, 2006 at 10:00 am
Asif:
The WPPF or profit-sharing is an excellent arrangement for all the reasons you mention in your post (No. 30). It potentially harmonises worker and management attitudes towards a common goal of bettering the long-term future of their company. Workers learn to appreciate the importance of profit; similarly, that treating employees humanely is sine qua non for productivity improvement becomes management philosophy. Profit-sharing is a classic “bubble-burster” that can go a long way towards dissipating the “us/they” malaise.
While its long-term benefits are undeniable, the WPPF is unlikely to bring immediate relief in the current RMG fiasco. For starters, the companies resisting the minimum wage are probably loss makers (Or reporting losses).
If I may be permitted to digress slightly from the main thread, there is scope for evaluating the RMG debacle in a different perspective. While casual empiricism suggests that many RMG factories are non-compliant, it is also true that the vast majority of export volumes are filled by compliant factories. In other words, most of our export earnings come from companies that treat their workers well. From this viewpoint, this sector as a whole is not the devil that we make it out to be.
Mr. M Chowdhury (Post No. 26):
Thank you for your kind remarks. I wish you best of luck with your business.
November 4th, 2006 at 9:25 am
This topic is one that I have discussed with people for years, trying to explain to personally-known bubble dwellers that it is just a matter of time before Bangladesh has a French Revolution-type situation on its hands. How long before the poorer Bangladeshis wake up to the realisation that they far outnumber the elite and can crush us like Antz? And how many of those downtrodden masses are going to stop to check who, amongst the elite, has been socially responsible? None of our heads are safe then. Not the responsible entrepreneurs, not the upper middle class, not the richest of the rich class. We’re all going to lose our heads together, Charles Darnay, the Marquis Evrémonde, all of us. For those who doubt, Kansat may be a wake up call.
I used to be of the opinion that those of us who do donate should just go about our business quietly, without fanfare. I now think that it is important for people (rich and poor) to see that some of us do have a conscience after all. The poor see, everyday, the guy in the BMW driving by the garments worker on the street. The poor don’t actually get to see the pour-down economics happen too often, and visuals do matter. Plus, we might start giving apathetic (as opposed to deliberately blind) bubble boys some ideas.
Our problems stem directly from our morals. Most of us probably know of at least one rich person who has modified his/her report card to gain entrance into a foreign university. The argument being that everyone does it and that money alone does not guarantee admission. How then, does the poor man/woman who busted his/her backside to get good grades stand a chance at getting admission and eventually having the better job/life desired? And why should this person then not feel vengeful towards the upper classes who have it good anyway?
I am not in any way suggesting that enjoying the fruits of one’s genuine labour is something to feel guilty about. I remember how going out to enjoy ice cream (Movenpick or other) was such a treat for me. And therein lies some of the difference: for the bubble dwellers, the ice cream was not a treat – it was a regular thing that daddy’s who-knows-or-cares-where-it-came-from money bought. I had the fortune of attending two of Dhaka’s most-renowned English schools, including Scholastica. I grew up with many of the richest people in the country, believing that they would grow up to be different from their parents. That they wouldn’t be loan defaulters or corrupt politicians or smugglers because we may not be able to help who our parents are, but we can control who we are, at least to some extent. I believed as Rima does, that our attitudes would change with each generation. I’m not saying that that hasn’t happened at all (look at the people in DP), but the number of elites who still live in bubble world is still alarming. I have, after repeated attempts, reduced the amount of time I spend talking to the bubble dwellers I grew up with, simply because I’m sick of sounding like a sermoniser (and one who is beating her head against a plexiglass bubble at that). I have had the same education as they have, and I have seen the same injustices in the streets of Bangladesh as they have. We just see things with different eyes.
Many of my old classmates grew up to (conveniently) marry each other and they continue to spend money on lavish weekend parties using daddy’s money. Nevermind that the peon in daddy’s company has not seen a paycheck for the last three months. Now, if I know what happening in someone else’s dad’s company, surely this person has to know. And yet, the parties continue unabated. And I am reduced to not going and writing stuff in protest. I am aware that I share some of the traits of the archetypal bubble dweller. I recognise, however, that there is a bubble and a whole world beyond it. And I try to do something about it, be it through my work, my donations or my volunteering. Of course my family had something to do with that. The reason I ever got to attend the fancy schools is that my father chose to spend what money we had on that education. It also meant that we did not have servants for the major part of my life. We did our own washing, cleaning, ironing and cooking, amongst other things. I remember a time long, long ago when we did have a servant. He and I learned Bengali together from my aunt. I met him years later. He was working behind the counter at a shop. I had once been mean to another servant way back when. I don’t remember what I did (convenient, eh?), but I do remember that my aunt had flown into a rage at my behaviour, and she made me ask his forgiveness. He had looked as I uncomfortable as I had felt at the time.
Am I from the bubble boy class? Probably. Do I belong? No. I was but a visitor to bubble land. And it showed. It showed when I chose to actually have a conversation with the little boy whose job was to guard my friend’s Lexus while it was parked. The rest of my friends spent that time discussing how pagol I was for chatting with the servants. I have now “progressed” to being laughed at for wearing the same watch since I was a teenager. The reason the bubble people haven’t completely given up on me? It’s a Swatch.
November 4th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
Great insights, So, and terrific writing! Keep the fire burning, and hope to see more of your participation on this website. And the same welcome goes out to Lazarus as well.
November 6th, 2006 at 5:02 am
Ore! You DO see my participation, Zubaer. And not just on this website. I use a shortened version of my name now to avoid being stalked online. You thought that I was someone sitting in Dhaka rather than someone you and the rest of the DP London folks had dinner with last week. Well, that explains the kind comments! Thank you, saar. I do seem to have a few things in common with Lazarus…although I only grew up in three countries
November 6th, 2006 at 6:56 am
So, I retract everything I said in comment 33.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:59 am
On the subject of communication between the classes, I enjoyed Lazarus’ anecdotes about talking to the servants. So much more interesting than the bubblistes, I always think…
Wrote something about it once in my blog:
http://www.morristhepen.net/home/blog.php?id=39
April 25th, 2007 at 8:04 am
You must have never seen a show in the US called Sweet 16.
Its a show where a kid celebrate his/her 16th birthday usually with lavish party worth of $200,000. Most people in the US have never even meet these kids in real life, but they are there.
You are looking at a glass half empty. In most other countries you don’t have the privilege to enter a good night club, golf course, or have a house in white neighborhood unless you are “little well off”. And hence you are segregated. You don’t even get to do some “adda” with the elite.
Be lucky that in BD, at least a poor guy can hope to dream about eating one of those TK 300 ice cream once in a lifetime. Now how many of you expats have ever had $300 ice cream, or how many of you even dream of something like that in the future.
Now tell me whose the poor guy.
The problem in BD, is not that rich are getting too much out of the system, but the rich are not getting enough.
In BD money flows form the poor to the rich, but not from the rich to the poor, the rich then spends it on foreign stuff and countries. If there were proper frameworks in BD those money could be easily invested in factories, IT industry, hospital etc. But corruption is so rampant that the rich put there future in foreign degrees, money hoarding etc.
This is a fundamental flaw in socialist countries like BD, subcontinent and Europe.
In US and China, the rich are highly subsidized than the poor, to stop the leakage of money. Hence trickle down economics. Welcome to Reganomics.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:29 am
Which poor guy in Dhaka can dream of one day eating a Tk300 ice cream? Which rickshawallah, bosti-dweller, garments worker would spend Tk300 on one single ice cream even if he/she did have that amount put together at any given time? I saw about half an episode of Sweet 16 and could barely believe my eyes at the attitudes on display, even though I am aware that the bubble mentality is not a Bangladesh-specific phenomenon. I feel that the US comparison is a little exaggerated here….As is the assertion of Bangladesh as a socialist country (unless I am missing some heavily-disguised sarcasm).
April 25th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
Just take a look at our advisers who are setting our policy. Of course they are better than the crooks they replaced. But practically every single one is from this green zone.
http://www.bangladesh.gov.bd/gov.htm
Is it surprising that the holiday market sort of impractical solution to the hawkers problem comes out of them?
The solution is having an election where through proper reform we can ensure that dedicated local grassroot leaders come out as representative of their people.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
The green zone is a term pulled out of the Iraqi situation. Each advisor is surrounded by BCS people who will not come from the green zone. The question is how information travelled and gets refined in society not where people live at the moment. BD arose from a need to decentralise control, but every thing is pretty much still in dhaka.
The election wont get out grassroot leaders. Its just one of many processes through which people are given local esteem and public power. Thats a generational project that elections and political parties have not helped in recent times.
It is not wise to pause occasionally and tinker with stuff so we are not totally ruined?
April 25th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
Fugstar, since you and I both agree on more representation of local decision making bodies (your term decentralization), how do you suggest we do this without election?
Greenzone (as in Baghdad where US offices are based) was used to portray a highly protected area secluded from the rest of the country. You can’t get a real picture of the coutry if you are inside the green zone.
On a separate note, I don’t know if its me but often your comments are so cryptic that its hard for us, the commoners, to comprehend. Also its not really constructive to poke holes at other people’s comments only. Since you seem to have figured out a lot of our ills, we expect to see some alternatives from you that you think will work time to time.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
Lot has been said already. What else can I say!
Good post Nazim Farhan. To be rich is not at all a fault, to be rich through illegal means is.
As for the solution: well we are discussing why don’t Bangladeshi Riches not do enough for poor people! To do or not to do is one’s own will. We can’t force it. Even if one does not want to do it, we can not even mind. Obhiman may be. But definitely we can encourage people with our act like this thread will. Good post Asif.
While the riches of Bangladesh are not within our control, one thing is definitely within our control. That is us. Why not start with ourselves first!
Let us ask ourselves have we done our part already! If we did, great, continue the good work. If not, we can start right from today without being frustrated why is it not done by others!
One thing we have to accept, the division in society is natural while we may not like it. Hardly any society is there that does not have rich and poor. The real problem with us is not the rich and their mentality. It is the way many of us got rich, illegally. To solve this core problem, we need to have a very good good governance which can flourish under free democracy. Let us ensure that to our earnest.
Thanks
LTT
April 26th, 2007 at 5:12 am
Asif, good post, altho after reading your #39 Im not sure whether our Two Ladies would fall under grassroot leaders or BUBBLE GIRLS !
Yunus says he applies the adage, “buy a man a fish and you feed him for a day, TEACH a man to fish and you feed him forever.”
Besides, in BD, the whole concept of giving (or not giving) is heavily dependant on our good old national disgrace - corruption. Fundraising and donation must have acquired a really bad reputation, nobody gives and nobody asks, somewhere someone must have really abused the process, to give it a bad name!
People are scared to give - what if it goes to the wrong hands, for a wrong purpose. Some are just happy to keep up with the Jones’s, keep the Billions buy a bigger Lexus! Then again, these are international concerns, part human nature, not just in BD.
But the last thing the rich want to do is to throw away the stash from a flying chopper. They want to make sure it goes to the right Foundation. Thats exactly what Warren Buffet said in a talk show, that for 30 years he has wanted to give most of his money to a charity, but didnt know which one.
Until Bill Gates gave his money to Gates foundation, and Buffet followed.
Of course, we have a Grameen foundation in BD too, but how effective or “trusted” is it.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Hang on a second. We all live in bubbles. So long as bubbles communicate and theres an dose of distributive justice we should be ok, no? I can only be myself, i cannot be anyone else.
I dont have big answers, nor a loud speaker. Though I’ve written some stuff which I can send your way if you like.
Here are some non election processes. I think these are societal trends, not political things, though there is a little relation.
#1
If there were less fear, mistrust and scaremongering, I think the rich would venture out further. Loaded dhaka parents wouldnt mollycoddle there kids so much and send them to schools to inbreed themselves and become white.
#2
If deshi marriages and families werent so demanding there would be more space for society to mix.
#3
If lady to husband dowries were forcefully illegalised and if bengali men didnt have to wait so long to get married, there would be more space and less desperation.
#4
If the waqfs were stronger and less treated like private property social connection would be greater.
#5
If everything(services, industry) was not concentrated in Dhaka. People would have options.
#6
If religious learning, practice and conciousness (in the rich) were wider spread with ritual blended with meaning. I think there would be more equality, greater sense of nonmaterialism. In religion the responsibilities of the rich and wealthy are great and honorous.
#7
If there were compulsary meritocratic military service there would be a whole lot of relationship building going on. Drishtipat members could join and stand up for social justice!
The rich manipulate elections there way and use others as instruments of their will. Then they say they carry the will of the people. The 7 points i have mentioned are not so much election dependant as theiy are renaissance, awakening, revival, reformasi dependant.
One piece of startling wisdom that i heard out of the last government (BNP one) was from Saifur Rahman (i think). It went along the lines of ‘We still have a colonial attitude to government’.
Im not interested in his son, nor his budgets so much as that statement.
April 28th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
Andrew, a bit late, but liked your point about the use of English as a weapon.
I don’t think it’s just 15 yrd olds who do this in Gulshan.
I’ve been at a GP surgery in the UK recently and watched an old chachas who can’t speak English speak in Bengali to a Bengali receptionists who then replied in English, and the poor chachas struggles in broken English, trying to explain his ailment, and the receptionist doesn’t relent. The funny thing is though, the receptionist will have been hired for her bi-lingual language skills and she chooses not to be more customer friendly.
Maybe this is also a comments about growing up minority in UK but it made my mind reel, I did politely point out that she might get her work done faster if she addressed the chacha in Bengali.
Language is distinction of the highest kind for many people, and as you say, used as a weapon sadly.
Interestingly in Bangladesh I heard the British govt has gone back to funding Engligh language learning ( perhaps this was an aid programme for civil servants). This surprised me - because for the past X years the British govt deliberately chose not to fund English language training abroad, and prided itself for it, markedly different to French overseas assistance. I think then the UK govt considered it very un-PC to promote English learning with its own money. Wonder why things changes in Bangladesh - perhaps it was something to do with the then head of DFID Bangladesh as oppossed to a shift in UK policy. Would be very pleased to hear any explaination of this from any bloggers that might know why.
April 29th, 2007 at 6:12 pm
You can’t name a single rich person in Bangladesh whom you can proudly say has become the number one philanthropist in the country?.
There is an Eye Hospital in Farm Gate, Dhaka called Islamia Eye Hospital which is a charitable organisation funded by philanthropists. They treat tens of thousands of patients every year for FREE!
April 30th, 2007 at 9:42 am
Tahir, to address post 45, it is possible that the British government is choosing to fund English language training abroad because it is cheaper than the ESOL classes they have to fund in the UK for say, a chacha who has lived in London since 1993 and had not learned more than a few words of English. This then leads to the government having to pay for years worth of unemployment benefits for a man who has his children complete benefit forms for him when he knows full well that he is not going to get too many job offers without knowing how to speak the local language. True story. There are many kinds of bubbles.
May 1st, 2007 at 12:47 am
Hi So
Thanks for the explanation.
I understand your point, though I don’t know UK development policy makes this diasporic links xcept when they are discussing security and terrorism. This is expecting a lot from the British govt!
Byt you are right with many chachas and ammas, including my own, that don’ speak any much English and they’ve been here a lot longer than 1993.. The reasons why are complicated and for another blog.
Also, the DFID funded programme teaching english isn’t aimed at chachas that migrant to London but rather middle class bangladeshis , indeed, civil servants in Govt of Bangladesh , I believe who need to improve their English skills to eompete in globalised era in Bangladesh. There is something about English as a business language in era of globalisation etc which might figure - but it’s a very odd shift , breaking with tradition of not funding English language in other UK developing countries where UK funds aid - I don’t know why Bangladesh has been an exception, there are other countries like India, Sri Lanka, etc from where there are many migrants to the UK and no such policy has taken place in relation to reversing English language policy there. This has been politically contested in the past in countries like India, Kenya, Tanzania etc that British govt simply stopped. It is now considered very politically incorrect for British govt to fund English language training abroad!
Plus UK aid policy is strictly connected to aid to overseas countries with few links or connections back to supporting migrant groups in UK - this is the reason some Bangladeshi diaspora groups are contesting this - they’re arguing that aid agencies like DFID should deveop internships that would allow UK bangladeshis to contribute to development in Bangladesh and this would be of mutual gain to both parties.
I wondered whether why … Perhaps there isn’t a reason, a case of UK un-joined thinking with other parts of UK policy,who knows.