Fri 26 Jan 2007
About Turkey and Algeria
Robert Kaplan had the following to write about the current state of democracy in Turkey. This is an excerpt from the Globalist.
“In the past, when a Turkish general announced a coup, he also promised to hold elections and return the army to its barracks after a designated period. Now the military’s role is more insidious, and it is more likely to become a permanent presence in Turkish politics. As one Turkish analyst told me, ‘At National Security Council meetings, the generals bring thick dossiers from which to lecture, and the civilian cabinet ministers come as tourists. ‘
Without actually doing anything official, through a soft, postmodern process in which … the deep military state lying beneath the civilian surface had reasserted itself. It was not deep in a conspiratorial sense but deep in the sense that it was firmly grounded. To middle-class Turks, the generals were… well-meaning and paternalistic notables. ”
In 1992 the Algerian army canceled national elections won by the Islamic Party and seizes power under direct direction and patronage of the international community.
Events in Bangladesh and the consequences
Now probably we all know the series of events leading to the change of caretaker government. It is not at all difficult to put the events in Bangladesh in a line with the recent history of Turkey and Algeria.
It is true that the immediate effect of the intervention in Bangladesh brought welcome relief to the middle class Bangladesh. However if we take lesson from the history, this sort of intervention do not bear well for the natural growth of a nation and a democracy in the long run. Let me give some example how a bad precedent could harm us in the future.
1. Can an elected government ever, in the future, make a foreign policy not to send troops to UN mission?
2. How comfortable will an elected government to call back all UN mission soldiers in response to a threat by a foreign country?
3. Suppose advocate Sultana kamal is a technocrat home minister. How independent she will be in investigating army atrocities in CHT or changing RAB guidelines?
4. Will not the transfer and recruitment in 9th artillery division in Savar get more politically motivated? Now probably mid level and junior officers will also be politically recruited in that garrison.
The all Powerful Army, India and Sri Lanka.
Well, we frequently recite the contribution of army to the nation. The politically correct term is “Deshpremik Shena Bahini”, as if the rest of the country is not “Desh Premik”. How many times we heard about the UN missions and goodwill, pride and money brought to the nation by these missions? Then what about the civilian NRBs? How many thousand time more remittance these civilian NRBs bring for BD, even if I decide to ignore the goodwill they are bringing on a daily basis?
Exactly how much dependent we are on the armed forces? Is it anyway comparable to India or Sri Lanka? India, under constant threat from nuclear China and Pakistan and zillions of domestic armed separatists, depends on the armed forces for her mere existence. And we say situation in Bangladesh was bad. The country was on the verge of a civil war. Well, Sri Lanka is in a civil war decades. Military is protecting the country from armed Tamil onslaught. Successive head of states were killed.
Did army come out and say “enough is enough, you’ll get out, I am putting him as the new President. He will make the country peaceful “?
India Again
It is true; the political culture in Bangladesh was really bad. Lack of idealism, corruption, black money, muscle power has been the major attribute of Bangladesh politics. Now please look back at Indian democracy in 60s, 70s, 80s and even 90s. India went through the same political teenage wildness as we are going through now. Those who are as old as I am, will remember, coalition governments, failed coalition governments, election every other year in India.
Now we take lessons and show example of Indian election. But that is “Now”. That is after 40 years of thugocracy by people like Lallu Prasad. Even with the help of democracy, ultra rightist religious RSS/ Bojrang Dal came to power with BJP. But India kept on track of democracy, gave the young democracy the time to grow. There was trust in people power.
Can any Indian itizen imagine that the editors of “” the Statesman” or “The Hindu” demanding army takeover when Indira Gandhi imposed emergency over India and repressed the nation for three years? No they did not do that. Rather they waited three years with patience and trust and three years later the people spoke. Congress as well as Gandhi faced an unimaginable humiliating defeat.
Impatience and People Power
It is beyond argument that the immediate past BNP government was the worst of all three post 1990 democratically elected governments. I label the first BNP government as the most tolerant and democratic, the AL government as the most efficient and accomplished government so far. The immediate past government was neither democratic nor efficient. They failed miserably in every single sector. (You can argue about law enforcement, but where is the credit of controlling crime after first letting it skyrocket?).
And the verdict would have been clear about it provided people were allowed to vote. If AL participated in the election, it would have been a sweeping victory for them. In fact nobody, no force will ever be able to grossly manipulate an election with full participation of all the parties. This is Bangladesh reality. There were too many speculations how election will be rigged etc. And an army coup was encouraged out of mere speculations. We simply failed to keep trust on the people. For many people, the hate towards BNP/ Jamaat and the impatience was so intense that, destroying democracy was OK if it could uproot BNP/ Jamaat hold on the government.
Why all these happened?
Over the last years, when the two major political interests were getting closer to a confrontation, there was absolutely no serious effort by domestic forces like civil society and the media to play as the soothing, mediating, unifying factor. Instead the efforts to instigate an election boycott, create more mistrust was not at all covert. Zayd Almer Khan recently wrote,
“… the political system reaching breaking point also represents a failure on the part of that same civil society and the media, because in their eagerness to unquestioningly align themselves to the crude power play of the political parties, they have abdicated their duties as a pressure group.”
Rather there was indirect pressure on the army to take control. One editor, who is currently in the cabinet and who makes regular comments against politicians and intermittently warns of a long term of current government, clearly demanded a third force just two weeks before the emergency. Another editor, my all time favorite, with long history to be pro people journalism, and editor of the best (Not only the most popular) newspaper in the country, has taken, in my eyes, a very puzzling stand as the instigator of animosity between political parties and encouraging an army takeover.
I believe that the credibility of some of our editors is so high that if they wanted and played an active role, there could have been an all party election on 22nd January. And I know it would have been an Awami League slam dunk.
And definitely the civil society had strong backing of this covert coup. Again, probably the hatred on BNP/ Jamaat was so high in all levels of the society that hate clouded the conscience and the patience. Democracy may have injured badly, so what BNP/ Jamaat evil shadow is finally gone!!!
We only can hope
We only can hope that the injury our fledgling democracy just endured will heal soon and our democracy will resume its bold journey again.
January 26th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
id be interested for you to draw some insights out of indonesian and thai political expereinces wrt army and corruption and governance changes.
Algeria and turkey are very different kettles of fish indeed, but the crazy actions of the secular establishment protecting their interests is important to remember, as we repeat the same.
In indonesia the military received no state funding. interesting huh? The recent thai coup is still engaged right?
i think we need to draw more upon south east asian and asian example for more resemblance to our own context, rather than the lazy muslim country in ideological meltdown thesis that westerners are fond off.
India could respond to perversity with persevearance as they have a long time educated class who beleive in the national interest. we dont.
January 26th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
Good piece Rumi!
But the sleek lines of painting last AL gov. as “the most efficient and accomplished government so far” went little over the top.
January 26th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
The nexus of army, businessmen, technocrats and urban intelligentsia behind the current state of emergency needs to be investigated more. Not all businessmen were happy with the excesses of novo-capitalism in the country. We all know many of them are integral part of our ’shusil shamaj’, condemning corruption and wayward activities of some of their own.
Our elite ’sushil shamaj’ did strike back. The status quo was severely threatened and they had to. But where does it leave our people.
Democracy is costly, and it seems our urban elites are not willing to pay the price for it (yet). Emergency’s honeymoon days of cleaning up the city streets, bulldozing the ‘illegal’ slums, snuffing out the ‘unwanted’ elements of the society in extra-judicial custody, is in full swing. The urbanites are getting their city back, and also their false sense of security. While all along there is a deafening silence from the ’sushil shamaj’, self-appointed spokespersons of the people.
January 26th, 2007 at 8:03 pm
It’s good that Rumi bahi initiated this discussion. From analysis so far it is all clear that ’sushil shamaj’ has destroyed last institution that could protected sovereignty of Bangladesh. For few hundred million dollars army had listen to the command from the bank of East river than from commander in chief in Bangabhaban. That is not an applauding act as one group of politicians and ’sushil shamaj’ conveyed so far. We should be asking ourselves four questions Rumi bhai asked and let me add fifth one to that:
1. Can an elected government ever, in the future, make a foreign policy not to send troops to UN mission?
2. How comfortable will an elected government to call back all UN mission soldiers in response to a threat by a foreign country?
3. Suppose advocate Sultana kamal is a technocrat home minister. How independent she will be in investigating army atrocities in CHT or changing RAB guidelines?
4. Will not the transfer and recruitment in 9th artillery division in Savar get more politically motivated? Now probably mid level and junior officers will also be politically recruited in that garrison.
5. If for few hundred million dollars Bangladsh army listens to foreign command then in case of any war/attack on Bangladesh (Allah forbid); who would they be listening for few more hundred millions $??
January 26th, 2007 at 11:33 pm
Who is most happy with this change?
Of course, it is Dr.Kamal who was just a week before afraid of coming back home for sedition case, now meets Dr.Fakhruddin Ahmed and dialogues with,for one hour. This is his as if the best acheivement after more than 2 decades. While he coming out of the meeting wiht DFA, Dr. Hussain commented the current government is like a national government what he wished for and demanding for years.
His comment I paraphrase as,” the true legal constitutional government has now been established in the country with DFA as it’s cheif after the burial of Iajuddin’s illegal government.” Shabbas! Dr. kamal Husssin.
Thanks.
January 27th, 2007 at 8:29 am
When someone like Dr. Kamal, the world famous lawyer, uses terms like “almost like a national govt.” (prai jatio sorkarer moto), that is scary. As far as I know, the constitution does not and should not have this kind of vague terminology and being a famous lawyer that he is, he should know that. That’s why when he uses such wishy-washy terms, that means he doesn’t want to say the right terminology.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:15 am
Rumi bhai,
Nice post. Thoroughly agree with the thrust of it. Two points.
First, regarding your all-time favourite editor, this shouldn’t come as a surprise. A ‘technocratic national government’ that tackles major policy issues was suggested from this corner as far back as 2004. The editor concerned is very aware of the unelected, and therefore undemocratic, nature of such a government. But this is not inconsistent with his former Marxist-Leninist worldview. In that view, the Party, representing the advanced section of the society (vanguard of the people) runs the state. It is this worldview that resulted in the editor and many of his comrades supporting BKSAL and/or Zia regimes in the 1970s.
Second, a lot has been said about the Army’s UN connection. However, the Army was reluctant to get involved in politics from the beginning of the current crisis, much before 1/11 (to use Asif’s term). One reason for this is that junior army officers (majors and captains) developed a strong antipathy towards BNP (which doesn’t necessarily mean they like AL) during the Operation Clean Heart. There is a strong perception that top criminals were protected by the then government. This is very similar to the majors and captains developing antipathy towards AL in the early 1970s. Because the army today is much more disciplined and professional than it was in 1975, these young officers don’t shoot politicians any more. But this doesn’t mean the young officers would act as the same politicians’ lathials.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:42 am
Blaming Sushil Samaj is easy. But I don’t see anyone proposing a practical alternative to what is in place now. Democracy is costly but the kind of democracy that is being practised in Bangladesh is even more costly because it doesn’t deliver for the people. Rather it puts heavy burden. More than democracy, people want governence now. I think political parties should take this time to introspect, clean house and fight back. Ultimately, we have to go back to BNP or AL. But let them clean up their act first.
January 29th, 2007 at 9:02 am
This is the first time I am 100% agreed with the opinion of Rumi Bhai and I thank him for his timely column. Basically our middle class people don’t know that they are becoming the pawn of elite class of the Bangladesh. Basically I feel this Non Political Movement has been started long time back. In fact I strongly believe any non political Govt should stay Maximum 6 Months. Later on people should select Their representatives.
Now My question to every one are we become the next generation of Frankenstein. For so called peace what are we going to do? Are we dreaming that we are going to get one Lee Kuan Yew in Prof Yunus ?
Basically Few of our political leaders who have been born from the Non Political Platform are they representing our Tradition
of the 52, 69 and 71?
Have our so called elite class reached to the root of the people of country.
Can they realize the problem of middle class again?
Can news papers Like Prothom-Alo , Daily Star, Electronic Media Like ChannelI, NTV, Atn Bangla represent the Middle class?
what is the interest of Jillur Rahman of Tritio Matra to speak trash about all political leaders.
Because of some Irresponsible young politicians If we generalize the whole system I am 100% sure a big Night mare will be waiting for all of us . There won’t be any middle class later on in Bangladesh.
Now a days I have found a Funny topic in every news paper about VOIP in Prothom -alo.
So many so called non patriot young guys have been arrested by RAB. and In every TV channel they have made the news of it. But when same Prothom -Alo is giving advertisement of Calling Cards for some Australian Company are they not violating the Law of the country? I my self is in Telecom Industry with a Reputed mother Telecom operator in singapore
. what is the problem now to open the VOIP completely in Bangladesh? is there any Obstacle? Our so Called Brilliant BTTB is going to loose revenue?It seems from very next day Rab will go to everyone’s home to arrest to send Emails. Because Post office revenue is reduced in last some years after introduction of Internet.
My question to So called Intellect How professional BTTB is ? I remember while I was in Bangladesh even for one residential line you need to pay brive to half educated line man after paying Demand note. Did care Taker Gov’t took any step to clean up the BTTB system?
Basically what I felt Bangladesh has huge possibility in the Telecom sector and even bigger than garments and Textile. Every day Mother Telco like Sing Tel, MCI, Sprint, Vsnl have billion of voice minutes for Bangladesh. besides there is The retailers like Calling card operator . Basically I am Totally agreed with the Rumi Bhai that our NRB has sent lots of remittance to the country. They also have right to communicate their relatives and all in the country in Cheapest cost. If they need $1 per minute to make a call what’s the benefit they are getting. May be little but don’t you think It is affecting even little bit in remittance. Did Govt think what can be the side effect of those things? Did they ever insist BTTB to reduce their incoming cost for Other Foreign operator?
Only for the political reasons and so called revenue they even did not think about the substitute arrangement. But behind this VOIP the biggest so called political players are still in safe side.
I don’t know what type of people are seating in the Chair of the institution. In every where every country there is gray operators. and There is a market. why didn’t they take the policy to compete with Gray? Like in India Reliance is a revolution . But BSNL is not died. Just see the NWD and IDD call of India right of the moment. Here Govt sector is competing with the private sector. But I believe our This sector can’t do any thing.
This is the right time to liberalize the VOIP with the reasonable cost. and Right person should be in right place. But That does not mean you should bring University teachers who did not have any real time Experience. Just invite real professional who have vast experience in this sector. and The people who have been arrested should be utilized for the development of this sector even as a technician. VOIP is a Technology it is not Drag or some thing. My request to all news papers and every one Please don’t try to use it in negative form .It is the golden mine for the Bangladesh . so before blaming any one for any thing Just make sure you must have proper knowledge.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:33 am
Yes I agree it is easy to complain without giving a solution. In this context, blaming the current coup instigators, media and civil society, was easy, no doubt.
At the same time I feel it has been much easier to criticize the politicians too.
Let me ask a very easy question. We now have ten advisors. And around 100 civil society leaders who you will see in TV talk shows or in different policy dialogues on a daily basis.
Can you name one of them who can come out elected from a constituency even in the most fair election?
Or if one of them decide to run for office, can he maintain the same clean hand as he is pretending to have now?
One basic truth about democracy is that when you become an elected representative, you have to represent all the class of people. Otherwise you will not get vote. And in a still developing society interests of different class of society do not always follow the same path, occassionally they collide. For me it is the greatest thing to clean up Buriganga from encroachments. But there are hundreds of thousands of landless ex peasants from the otherside of river who need a living and shelter. Now if I want to become an MP of that constituency, I have to accomodate them. May be it is illegal, may be immoral may be it is degrading the environment. But democracy will protect the river grabbers.
How to correct the problem?
Make this fledgling democracy strong, that will ensure peaceful coexistence of all. The stronger the democracy gets, the less conflicting the interests of the society gets.
Democracy must be given the due time for a natural growth. Definitely we can’t correct it by killing the immature teenage democracy and creating a custom made, incubator raised specification fulfilled democracy.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:53 am
You are correct Rumi Bhai. Every day we are going to speak about Black money. But did we
see the root of Black money? It is coming also from the Non Politcial platform. I think Civil society of Bangladesh can’t take proper decison which is good for them.
First we have to learn to say white to white and gray to gray.
Politicians might do worse for the country . But Is there not gray or Black in
Non Political Sector? So we have to pint out which is white for our country as well as black .
January 29th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
Who speaks for the people ? Sushil Samaj ? The Army ? The bureaucrats ? Our politicians ?
Democracy is always a trade-off. In theory, it is the only process that we know of that can bring about representatives of the people. And it is not perfect. Neither does it become perfect on its own. The process is costly and there is no short-cut. It is only by trying it out in practice, with all its stops and starts, that you can fine-tune it.
We may, however, decide not to wait that long. And this is not a value loaded statement. Lee Kuan Yew did not need democracy to bring prosperity to his country. Neither did Castro, Naseer, Kemal Ataturk and host of other great leaders.
Whatever we go for in the end, it is important to know what we are getting into. There cannot be some democracies ‘preferable’ than others. There can be only one democracy; where people speak. And we, the privileged few, may not like what they have to say. For instance, what if like in Iran or in Algeria, they want an Islamist state ? Do we then say, as the Americans did when the Palestinian elected Hammas, it is democracy ‘gone too far’ ?
Farhad
January 29th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
I am not agreed you Forhad . First of all Lee Kuan Yew. How Can you say that He did not need Democracy to make his country prosperous. This will be a big injustice to the one of the architects of the finest Democracy. This is called Leader ship not autocracy. In Singapore people was so happy about the good governance , They don’t need the unnecessary Change. But Still they come by election. Now about Castro, Naseer, Kemal Ataturk ,They all are born from a great concept. Castro has huge public support in the country. They all are legend.
Naser is also the founder of NAM (Non align Movement) with Great Masrshal Tito and Democratic Johor Lal Neheru. But You can’t compare them with Current situation of Bangladesh.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
With regards to Mr. Rumi’s
comment: “..But there are hundreds of thousands of landless ex peasants from the otherside of river who need a living and shelter…”
I don’t see it this way. Rivers and lakes are communal property of the nation. Encroachment leads to shrinking river basin, thereby worsening the effect of flood for everybody. Thus, encroachment is equivalent to inflicting harm on the community. In the same way that society does not tolerate theft and robbery, it should not stand by and make everybody suffer because of the greed of some.
By the way, in my experience with the Bangladesh Environment Network (BEN) and associated BD organization BAPA, the worst offenders are not the common landless peasants, but well connected influential people. A typical stategy is to construct a mosque/madrasa far into the river, and then along with it comes a whole raft of adjoining structures.
The thinking is that no one will harm a mosque/madrasa.
January 30th, 2007 at 6:23 am
Tanoy, we obviously have two very different understanding of ‘democracy’. ‘Democracy’ is not automatically equated with ‘good governance’. Neither is it a religion, the mere practice of which exonerates the state of all its responsibilities. As for Singapore, reproduced below is an excerpt from Wikipedia, which is a somewhat milder admonishment of the sate of affairs there since its independence:
Quote:-
“Singaporean politics have been dominated by the People’s Action Party (PAP) since self-government in 1959. Foreign political analysts and several opposition parties like the Workers’ Party of Singapore, the Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) and the Singapore Democratic Alliance (SDA) have argued Singapore is essentially a one-party state. Many analysts consider Singapore more an illiberal democracy or procedural democracy than a true democracy. The Economist Intelligence Unit lists Singapore as a country with a “hybrid” system with democratic and authoritarian elements. Freedom House ranks the country as “partly free”. Though general elections are free from irregularities and vote rigging, the PAP has been criticised for manipulating the political system through its use of censorship, gerrymandering and civil libel suits against opposition politicians. Political opponents like Francis Seow, J.B. Jeyaretnam and Chee Soon Juan perceive the Singaporean courts as favourable towards the PAP government due to a lack of separation of powers.”
Unquote:-
All of the other great leaders I had mentioned followed a one-party political process. They also believed they were ‘born with a dream’ and they were probably right. Bangabhandhu wanted to follow the same steps with tragic consequences. History is very unforgiving and can only judge in retrospect. Leaders are leaders in the eyes of history because they delivered, and not because they were ‘born’ with a particular genetic disposition, neither because they were ordained to do so by some higher power.
Farhad
January 30th, 2007 at 9:17 am
But Our Democracy is still young. Basically all those National leaders spent their life for the people. So They were respected in the history. Because now a days It is heard
To get one Che Guevara or Salvador Alende . Basically we should go back to our constitution of 1972 where Secularism was the main base. Basically we did not have proper practice of Democracy . So people are giving different explanation of the constitutions. Basically Our problem was again from this Non Political back ground.
Other wise we never see the Re establishment of opportunist politicians who are just flattering Arm
February 2nd, 2007 at 6:55 pm
Kamal Hossain and his behind the scene role prepping interim govt to take over
http://www.amadershomoy.com/news.php?id=132872&sys=3
February 6th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
1) Which countries are we taking as model to do all these reforms in our country ??
Aren’t we expecting too much from the polititians ?? Don’t you think the problem we are taking about is the problem of Capitalism not
specific to our country ??
2) If all sectors are corrupted, why don’t we see any action taken againest any corrupted army personnel ??
3) If media become the voice (parliament !!) of our country, don’t you think they might misguide us for sake of their own interest.
Especially when some of them are owned by corrupted businessman ??
I think we all know about Rupert Murdoch and he is controlling the media!!
4) Some medias trying to go for local govt. election before the 9th parliament election.
My question is don’t you need the corrected voter list even to do that ??
Why are they pushing for that ?? To elect some NGO guys ??
5) If this interim govt put us into trouble in future by signing on any contract/agreement (e.g TIFA, UN anti-corruption, Chittagong port etc) with any international organization,
would they be facing the same fate as the corrupted politician are currently facing ??
6) If all election related activities are banned by the court, what would the EC do during these 3 months ??
7) Would it be acceptable if non-political groups ( so called 3rd power !!) take the same strategy (divide and rule) like other political parties ??
At last may be i am wrong on all or some of the above issues.
I hope i was wrong on all issues. But if i wasn’t, wouldn’t it be too late.
Wouldn’t all speeches (road map !!) of the current government end up in vein ??