Sun 29 Oct 2006
BNP betrayed with democracy and started the process to kill what remaining of it we had.
Awami League is a pathetic failure, failing to deliver any hope for the country.
Now President took over the CTG.
A Supreme Court petition is coming. For sure. ( Or very less likely, AL will accept Iazuddin, demand removal of CEC and other EC etc)
What our Supreme Court can do?
By constitution, is it true no one can sue the president? I know at least he can not be held in contempt of court. So does that that mean he does not have to listen to Supreme Court directive?
Can Supreme Court then give a guideline, which will save all the faces ( Those needed a salvage) and at the same time ensure a free and a fair election involving all the parties?
October 29th, 2006 at 11:54 am
I think you are correct. But I don’t think BNP is gainer rather they are big looser in here. Because
Diplomet Zone(USA) is simply avoiding
Journalist. I don’t think Current President has any strong personality to go against Mass. His Acid test will be to form the Cabinet.Even AL
Seems very much relaxed.
I have just Watch Channle I in Internet and From body Language of President It ckearly indicates He is not confident.
Regards
Tanoy
October 29th, 2006 at 11:59 am
Iauzuddin is speaking now and started with a lie. He is completely misrepresenting the constitution.
October 29th, 2006 at 12:16 pm
Apparently Awami League giving indication that they may accept him as chief of CTG.
Is there any other way open for them?
Ironically,
AL, 14 party and all their cohorts were so concerned for his welbeing several months ago. They wanted to keep him is Bangabvaban at any cost.
October 29th, 2006 at 12:43 pm
Is there any official declearation from al?
October 29th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
Rumi, they wanted to keep him in Bangabhavan because many thought it might be a conspiracy and he’s kept away to let KZ become President herself!
BTW, anyone saw Tarek speaking to TV channels and refering *power* to control supposedly 14 parties people at all cost? He’s speaking from Hawa bhaban… I wonder why he’s telling people to come out from their home when he’s so securely sitting there with people guarding him?
October 29th, 2006 at 1:32 pm
No official declaration but it appears they will support Iazuddin. Chittagong hartals’ been called off too.
October 29th, 2006 at 1:35 pm
AL won the first round, BNP won the second round. AL did a disservice to itself by blackmailing K.M. Hasan to retreat from heading the caretaker and my sources in Dhaka tell me that Hasan would have been a far more moderate person than the president to ensure neutrality in favour of AL. Now, the President did not just parachute himself in the position of the caretaker-head. The Constitution of Bangladeh gives the President the last resort to head the caretaker once all measures to have one failed.
Since AL’s Chief Justices were not acceptable choices to BNP, the President is the natural choice of last resort to head the caretaker government. In any case, it has always been a win-win situation for BNP. The President is a Professor with very high credibility with the international community and the Civil+ Military Administration. The President is a professional and a professor and not a politician. The president was elected by the parliament and not nominated by BNP. The Presodent is the People’s choice because the elected representatives of the people to the Parliament elected the President after throwing out Bodrudoza Chowdhury to the dustbin of history after he betrayed his own party. I am closely related to him. The army, police, BDR, and the civil and military bureaucratic establishment of Bangladesh will be more comfortable to work with their commander-in-chief of last 3 years since, as head of the state he already managed the bureaucratic establishment for the last 3 years highly competently.
Finally, BNP is not a party of fools. Rather it knows how to handle its enemies too well. It has very nicely and beautifully trapped AL into making the lasting Presidential choice to head the caretaker. There will never again be another Janatar Mancha but that score has been settled by BNP against AL many times now.
Once again, the BNP is the People and the People are BNP. Buckle up, hold on to your seat and let BNP take you and our Great nation to peace and prosperity.
Best,
J.R.
(BNP insider).
October 29th, 2006 at 2:01 pm
Javed,
Tarek’er chamchami onno jaegae giya koren bhai. Eita ki Paltan’er moydan paisen naki?
“BNP is the People and the People are BNP” - hashbo na kanbo, tthik bujhlam na. Desh-tare aro 5 years lutpat kortey chan, kholakhuli bollei paren.. keu apnere disbelieve korbe na.
October 29th, 2006 at 2:14 pm
Zub
Javed probably wanted to say : “BNP is Bangladesh and Bangladesh is BNP”, as they think it like that now a days.
October 29th, 2006 at 2:18 pm
BNP betrayed with democracy and started the process to kill what remaining of it we had.
Awami League is a pathetic failure, failing to deliver any hope for the country.
Dear Rumi - why the harshest words for AL (pathetic failure) vs just betrayal (implication being they are not venal incompetents but just somewhat disobedient)
Robin
October 29th, 2006 at 2:20 pm
I had a prolonged conversation with my nephew in Dhaka, and he expressed the same anxiety as most of us here are expressing. I will tell you what I told him, “never despair”. I strongly believe that B’deshis will raise up against the tyranny of the BNP and the AL.
The honourable gentleman Javed Rahman reminds me of the 3rd Reich’s dream of a 1000 years rule. How long did it last?
October 29th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
Thats Politics- and the game is very complicated what is good for now can be bad the next minute.Also in the game its difficult to know who is the friend and who is the foe.
The main thing the Political Parties is not doing is to concentrate on choosing good creditable candidates with political agenda for development of each Constituency which will subsequent be a development plan for Bangladesh.
They r still going to select candidates as per wish of the Leader and money the candidate can Pay to the Party Coffer—so what will we get the same; ALU;DALU:KISTI
October 29th, 2006 at 2:23 pm
Nazzina,
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[Above lines from original post deleted by DP admins, due to personal attacks]
We most people think weird, talk weird and behave weird.
Sorry for the comment.
October 29th, 2006 at 2:24 pm
Robin Bhai
Can you please give me a replacement of the words ” Pathetic Failure” that I can use appropriately for Awami League?
And in fact I used the same word ” Pathetic” to describe BNP almost six months ago here,in this blog. It was also called pathetic.
October 29th, 2006 at 2:34 pm
After Independence the idea of strengthening the respective institutions have been abandoned-strong istitutions is a deterrent against corruption and Bangladesh has made a world record–we all know 5 consecutive years we are at top of the record– strangely the Party in 0pposition points to those in Power forgetting that both are equally responsible for the great record: Can you show me one 0pposition Member not being equally rich as the Minister of the ruling party? The jealosy is that while in Power they make a higher percentage of profit than when they are in 0pposition-therefore the desperation to try to Reverse the situation.
October 29th, 2006 at 2:40 pm
Rumi:
AL suffers from the image of a minority party.
Hindus, Nouka Marka and Bharat (majority of our People are anti-Bharat) always identified with AL. Now, doesn’t that make BNP, the People’s choice, since the Bengali Muslim People voting on ethnic values are ideologically and
socio-culturally more alligned to BNP? Certainly performance matters but ethnic integrity matters more than performance in a largely rural homogeneous population like ours.
We are blessed by our Bengali Muslim homogenity something that India lacks desperately.
I agree that BNP is still cashing on it and will do so until our rural population grows up and migrates to the other side of the digital divide. But that is a long way to go and I am sure as our rural population grows up into a fine urban and educated Bengali Muslim population, BNP will by then transform itself in the model of the American Republican Party when Tarek Rahman will be our George Bush and Arafat Rahman will be our Jeb Bush and the good old Paltan Maydan will become our National Capital Mall, just like the one in Washington DC
October 29th, 2006 at 2:54 pm
Javed, what you’re saying clearly shows how far away this new generation BNP is from Zia’s visions, ideology etc.
Do you hear yourself talk?
We are blessed by our Bengali Muslim homogenity something that India lacks desperately.
Any idea how very divisive and insular you sound??
October 29th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
Mr Javed , You should remember This is a public forum. and Being an Educated Man
I hope you will follow the Healthy debate.
And abour Mr Tareq Rahman Just give me one
example where he has come as a greart political
leader instead of becoming the News of his Hawa bhavan. Let me Tell you one thing BNP was
a political party but because of Mr Tareq Zia
It has become a Trading House of some opportunist. LDP is the result of that. and If you think Your own Junk opinion is the speech of
the Majority Muslim of Bangladesh you are wrong then.
October 29th, 2006 at 7:33 pm
Looks like this blog is losing ability to hold a sustained, rational debate.
Recent posts seem to be a Punch-n-Judy show:
Thui BNP
Thui AL
Thui Hasina’r motho omuk-thomuk.
Thui Khaleda’r motho thomuk-omuk.
Thor Bap ke?
Thumi jano amar Bap ke?
Janthe chai na thor bap ke!
Etc etc.
October 29th, 2006 at 7:36 pm
Why are bloggers so “obak” at “ar shojjo korbo na” and “ajke dekhiye debo” type comments from Khaleda, Hasina, Tarique, or Badruddoza. This sort of violent rhetoric we have been hearing since 1972: from Mujib to Mushtaq to Mosharraf to Zia to Ershad to Khaleda to Hasina to Tarique. Only the masters have changed.
October 30th, 2006 at 5:31 am
Javed Rahman says that ‘our homogenous rural Bengali Muslim people’ vote BNP because of ‘ethnic integrity’ reasons. Some people here has called it divisive (Rezwanul, Zafa). Others have called him Tareque Rahman’s chamcha (Zub, Tanoy). Is it possible that Javed Rahman is being deliberately over the top provocative out of some twisted sense of humour?
May be, or may be he seriously believes that rubbish. Yes, it is rubbish. His argument is that BNP does well among the rural Bengali Muslim population. Well, you can get seat by seat electoral data for the last 3 elections here: http://elive.matamat.com/index.php
It is pretty straighforward to show that, on average, BNP does much better in more urban seats. You can argue about why BNP does better in towns and cities, but it is simply wrong to argue that BNP is strong among the ‘rural people’.
October 30th, 2006 at 3:01 pm
This small news may become big in the future:
Legal notice served on president
Unb, Dhaka
A legal notice was served yesterday on President Iajuddin Ahmed to refrain from performing as chief adviser to the caretaker government, the post he assumed on Sunday night in addition to his presidential responsibilities.
Challenging his action, Advocate Manzill Morshid said the president has violated the constitution by assuming himself as chief adviser without exhausting the options laid down in article 58 C (3, 4 and 5).
He urged the president to appoint a chief adviser to the non-party caretaker government in accordance with the constitution within three days, failing which he will move the High Court to protect the integrity of the constitution and rule of law.
He termed Iajuddin’s taking over the office of chief adviser unlawful and in disregard to the constitution.
Soon after president’s oath as chief adviser on Sunday night, legal experts including Dr Kamal Hossain, Barrister Amir ul Islam and Barrister Rafique ul Huq accused him of violating the constitution.
October 30th, 2006 at 3:08 pm
You know, I’ve been thinking all day that what is the stand of Supreme Court on this? After all it is the job of SC to interpret Constitution (and make people understand it very clearly) and make sure the that the constitution is translated in to laws and it’s the responsibility of the legislative branch (the Parliament) to implement laws.
Unfortunately there is no check-and-balance in BD.
Every thing is under the big bad umbrella of the PMO.
October 30th, 2006 at 5:36 pm
Shouldn’t we all look forward and concentrate on a free and fair election?
I don’t know what benefit it will bring to the nation by remining focused on what have already been done?
Plus, the supreme court chief justice conducted the oath, and the President took the oath. That measn they both agreed to what have been done. Now who will judge this and most importantly what will be the outcome?
October 30th, 2006 at 6:33 pm
But legal minutae are the fuel of our dear legal culture! we cant just let things lie. tbh its very important to those who didnt want to see the president involved like this.
But it reminds me of that abiding memory that muslims have to the shayks of baghdad discussing the best lenth to let their turbans dangle, before the mongol hordes wiped them out.
Further more, there is somethign of a spirit to the law rather than the letter. Im no lawyer BUT how anal do we want to be about the later points!? we could spin those ones out for ages. I hope the case gets a good going over.
Folks, when i saw the swearing in photo of prof pres’s swearing in, something felt wrong in my gut. It was the archaic british style wig and gown on the bangladeshi legal dude officiating. It freaks me out and really looked out of place on the bangladeshi man.
We have our own symbols of sagacity and grace.
October 30th, 2006 at 8:57 pm
Rumi bhai, I have tried to respond with my very limited capacity…
Shouldn’t we all look forward and concentrate on a free and fair election?
Sure. But why not raise the old issue – separation of judiciary from legislative or executive branches? It is imperative for democratic nation.
I don’t know what benefit it will bring to the nation by remiing focused on what have already been done?
Because that’s how it’s always been done. Do it first – make people accept it. This trend needs to be shoved.
Plus, the supreme court chief justice conducted the oath, and the President took the oath. That measn they both agreed to what have been done. Now who will judge this and most importantly what will be the outcome?
I am more interested in the long term responsibility of the SC justices (that’s NOT limited to conducting oath ceremonies). They need to be able to interpret constitution without any intervention from the PM’s office or the president’s office (who in this particular case was still under the influence of the outgoing PM).
October 30th, 2006 at 9:16 pm
Zafa
Agree with all what you said.
CTG have done some good in the past, like Justice Shahabuddin repealed the act aginst press freedom. But That CTG was all powerful.
Now current CTG do not have much constitutional power to change constitution. That’s why, probably they will not be able to separate the judiciary. If they could I would have been the happiest one.
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Now, imagne, someone put’s a lawsuit in the court. The case drags. Ultimately their is an injunction against CTG.
Then what, who will run the country? Who will reset the administration BNP has set up in gavor of them? And most importantly who will run the election and control the streets? We only have 3 months time.
A responsible way will be to wait and see whether this government deliver or not ( But don’t expect him to close all the private channels and open the jail gates). If they show no interest to be neutral, then definitely go for the allout war. In street front, supreme court front, blog front, media front.